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Q466:
R29A allows small clearance pockets in bumpers. Is this designed to allow clearances for fasteners and bearings only or can small sheet metal parts be given clearance as well? How deep can a pocket be?
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. In general, the clearance pocket allowance is to allow for the BUMPER to sit flat over minor protrusions allowed per !R01 (e.g. " bolt heads, fastener ends, weld beads, and rivets" no greater than 1/4 in.). In general, a sheet metal component of the ROBOT is unlikely to be considered a "minor protrusion".
 (Asked by

854
 at Feb 8th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/466</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:46:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/464</guid><title><![CDATA[Q464 Hard Parts]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q464:
On figure 8-5, it shows that the hard parts are the angles and the wood, but it does not say if the fastener system counts as a ''hard part''. please clarify
 
A:
If a part is hard (i.e. not soft like a pool noodle or fabric), it is a "hard part".
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6694
 at Feb 8th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/464</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:43:53 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/458</guid><title><![CDATA[Q458 Incidental carpet attachment]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q458:
Consider a robot that has a strip of hook fastener (the hook part of hook-and-loop). This strip drags against the field carpet as the robot drives around such that it doesn't really attach to the field carpet (no impact on robot mobility). The intent of this strip would be to attach to loose rope on the ground. Would this be considered illegal attachment to a field element under G15-C?
 
A:
We cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE. However, the intended use of a MECHANISM or COMPONENT has no impact on !G15. If a piece of hook-and-loop fastener, as in your example, were to attach to the FIELD (including the carpet), !G15 would be violated.
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3322
 at Feb 8th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/458</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:10:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/455</guid><title><![CDATA[Q455 Rope Retaining Feature not to extend more than 50mm BELOW the DAVIT fingers.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q455:
I need clarification on 104 E
E. " be configured such that it engages securely with the FIELD with a Retaining Feature (RF) that does not extend more than 2 in. (~5 cm) below the DAVIT fingers."
Do you mean to say FROM rather than BELOW?.The distance from the davit fingers is a horizontal measurement of 2.45 Inches ( 57mm) (See field components sheet GE-17081 sheet 2) before the vertical c channel. I am assuming you don't want the rope retaining feature entering the VERTICAL C channel?
 
A:
"Above" (as used in the Blue Box in !I04 part I) and "below" (as used in !I04 parts E and F) are directional references to the DAVIT fingers with respect to the AIRSHIP. "Above" refers to the portions of the DAVIT between the AIRSHIP and the DAVIT fingers, and "below" refers to the remaining portions of the DAVIT on the other side of the DAVIT fingers.
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5087
 at Feb 8th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/455</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:04:15 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/457</guid><title><![CDATA[Q457 Motor Modification for Shaft Position Encoder]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q457:
R33 limits modifications to a motor. Sub item A allows modifications for connecting "the motor to the ROBOT and actuated part". Can that rule be adjusted to specifically allow motor modifications for the purpose of mounting a shaft position encoder directly to the motor?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to clarify questions related to _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. If you have rule suggestions or comments, please contact [Team Support](mailto:firstroboticscompetition@firstinspires.org).
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5099
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/457</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 17:14:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/453</guid><title><![CDATA[Q453 FIRST Choice items count toward overall BoM costs?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q453:
Do the items obtained from FIRST Choice count towards our overall expenditures taken into account for the Bill of Materials? (i.e., does it subtract from the overall amount we are allotted to spend on the robot?)
 
A:
As per Section 8.1, "the Kit of Parts (KOP) ... is the collection of items listed on any Kickoff Kit Checklists, distributed via _FIRST_ Choice, or paid for completely, except shipping, with a Product Donation Voucher (PDV)." Therefore items distributed via _FIRST_ Choice are part of the KOP, which are exempt from the Cost Accounting Worksheet (CAW) per !R10.
 (Asked by

6325
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/453</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 17:13:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/450</guid><title><![CDATA[Q450 Monkeys Fist knot in rope contents]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q450:
If we tie a monkeys fist knot in our rope, can we use a marble/golfball in the center of that knot? The rope we are using is Para cord (if you need to know).
 
A:
No, this would violate !I04-D
 (Asked by

3848
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/450</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 17:12:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/452</guid><title><![CDATA[Q452 Can a "youth" over 18 submit the Chairman's Award?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q452:
I have a "youth" who is over 18. How will I get her into the youth registration to be able to submit the chairman's award. I cannot find the directions.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. For awards assistance and other questions, please [contact us](mailto:firstroboticscompetition@firstinspires.org)
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6164
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/452</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:33:26 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/443</guid><title><![CDATA[Q443 When does the T=0 check occur relative to the time when the robot is disabled?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q443:
Consider a robot which climbs the rope, displaces the touchpad for >1 second, and holds position until the robot is disabled, at which point it immediately back-drives and releases the touchpad. Does the T=0 scoring check occur before, after, or during the instant the robot is disabled? Will a robot that behaves in this way score the TAKEOFF bonus?
In other words, is it at all possible for a robot to get the TAKEOFF bonus if it cannot hold position without power?
 
A:
ROBOTS are not expected to continue displacing the TOUCHPAD plate past T=0 without power in order to be awarded "Ready for Takeoff," assuming they have adequately displaced the TOUCHPAD plate continuously for at least 1 second up to and including T=0.
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228
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/443</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:32:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/421</guid><title><![CDATA[Q421 Can we use a dye on the rope for aesthetic reasons? Dye must chemically bond to the rope.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q421:
We would like to know whether it is acceptable to use a "universal" dye such as RIT. This is a "direct dye" and bonds to the fibers of the rope, but we do not believe this affects the operating characteristics of the rope in any meaningful way.
 
A:
No, Team-applied dye is not permitted in !I04 (although dye applied by a manufacturer is permitted as of [Team Update 09](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate09.pdf)).
 (Asked by

2813
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/421</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:29:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/404</guid><title><![CDATA[Q404 PPE standard]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q404:
Hello,
we are attending from Europe & we have difficulty in finding ANSI approved PPE. Is it possible to use CE approved PPE instead of ANSI?
Looking forward to receive your reply.
Thanks
 
A:
Yes, CE EN166 safety glasses are approved per [Team Update 09](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate09.pdf).
 (Asked by

6697
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/404</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:27:54 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/449</guid><title><![CDATA[Q449 Lenght of Rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q449:
When interpreting I04 does this rule mean that part of your rope must be in contact with the floor after it is released?
 
A:
No, there is no requirement in !I04 that the ROPE contact the floor when released.
 (Asked by

4011
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/449</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:38:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/448</guid><title><![CDATA[Q448 Clearance for Hanging rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q448:
If a robot pulls into the climbing area until its bumpers meet resistance, how far from the edge of the robot (including bumpers) will the rope hang? I want to verify how far back the climbing mechanism can be positioned and still make contact with the rope. I don't see this 'hanging' dimension anywhere in the manuals.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
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3748
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/448</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:37:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/447</guid><title><![CDATA[Q447 Do the Bumpers on all four sides of the robot need to be bolted on?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q447:
We know that the outside corners have to be covered with at least 6 inches of bumper, but does the bumper need to be bolted/pinned in on all 4 sides, as in there needs to be a supports device holding the bumpers on every side of the robot?
 
A:
Yes, per !R26-G BUMPERS "must attach to the FRAME PERIMETER of the ROBOT with a rigid fastening system". Also pay special attention to !R31 as updated in Team Update 05, which specifies, "... a minimum of ½ in. (~12.7 mm) at each end of each BUMPER wood segment must be backed by the FRAME PERMIETER."
 (Asked by

2335
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/447</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:36:40 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/446</guid><title><![CDATA[Q446 Is Lift Peg Painted]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q446:
Is the spring portion of the lift peg painted or is it the standard silver/gray color as sourced from McMaster-Carr?
 
A:
The peg is not painted.
 (Asked by

1557
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/446</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:34:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/445</guid><title><![CDATA[Q445 Gear used in robot construction]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q445:
Hello,
We were looking to use a partial gear in the construction of one of the manipulators of our robot that would be permanently attached. We would consider painting the gear if this could cause confusion.
Thanks,
Kevin
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit using a GEAR as a part of your ROBOT. Distinguishing the GEAR used on your ROBOT from the GEARS used as GAME PIECES is recommended to avoid any confusion when assessing how many GEARS your ROBOT is carrying per !G27.
 (Asked by

3637
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/445</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/442</guid><title><![CDATA[Q442 Davit locking pin reoval]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q442:
Can the locking pin on the Davit fingers be removed to allow for the rope loop to be installed? If not can your rope loop (obviously shorter than 250mm) pass through the davit fingers and around both fingers to create your retaining feature. ?
 
A:
Yes, the DAVIT retaining pins are intended to be removed in order to install or remove a ROPE.
 (Asked by

5087
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/442</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:25:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/441</guid><title><![CDATA[Q441 Fastness on the robot frame protrude past those on the drive chasey]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q441:
We have used 80/20 extrusion in each corner of our robot. We have just discovered that the fasteners used in the extrusion sit 4mm further out than the thickest bolt head on the chassey ie the wheel axel which protudes 6.5mm. These fasteners we have used while slightly outside the chassey frame are inside the permitted volume. Is this an issue?
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. !R02 does contain a provision for minor protrusions, but we cannot definitively state whether your 10.5mm bolt heads qualify as we lack the complete context your LRI will have to make that call.
 (Asked by

5087
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/441</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:24:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/439</guid><title><![CDATA[Q439 Electrical linear actualtors]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q439:
Per R82 pneumatic linear actuators are allowed; would a COTS electrically driven linear actuator (not a solenoid or sold as a servo) be allowed?
 
A:
A COTS electric linear actuator is not a pneumatic linear actuator and therefore !R82 would not apply. If the motor or actuator is not permitted per !R32, it is not allowed.
 (Asked by

4064
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/439</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:24:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/438</guid><title><![CDATA[Q438 Previous Year's KOP Parts]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q438:
As our team works on the Bill of Materials for this year, do parts included in previous year's kit of parts count as exempt from the cost of the this year's robot? Examples of this question would include the roboRIO, voltage regulator, and pneumatic control module, which we recieved in last year's kit of parts from the rookie kit, but not this year's.
 
A:
Yes, the definition of Kit of Parts (KOP) includes "any Kickoff Kit Checklists" which includes the Kickoff Kit Checklist for the Rookie Tote you received last year.
 (Asked by

5816
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/438</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:23:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/437</guid><title><![CDATA[Q437 FRC Age Requirements]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q437:
Are there official age requirements and/or age limits for students on an FRC team? I see the marketing materials for Grades 9 - 12 and ages 14 - 18, but I was told these were only recommendations, not requirements and/or rules
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. For other comments or questions, please [contact us](mailto:firstroboticscompetition@firstinspires.org)
 (Asked by

314
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/437</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:19:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/436</guid><title><![CDATA[Q436 Please clarify the phrase "included in any Kickoff Kit"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q436:
In Table 8-1 there is the phrase "included in any Kickoff Kit". Could you please clarify, does this literally mean "any" kickoff kit? For example kickoff kits going all the way back to 1992 (not sure if there were kickoff kits in 1992) or only kickoff kits distributed for the 2017 Game
 
A:
"Any Kickoff Kit" means "any Kickoff Kit" and is not restricted to the 2017 Kickoff Kits. Please note, you may be asked to provide documentation that an item was in a Kickoff Kit, especially for older items that Inspectors may not be familiar with.
 (Asked by

662
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/436</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:18:35 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/422</guid><title><![CDATA[Q422 Chairman's Essay]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q422:
Can we use portions of our old essays and just update information, particularly if we like the way it communicates our thoughts? i.e. metaphors we've used?
 
A:
Yes, there are no rules against that.
 (Asked by

4265
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/422</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/413</guid><title><![CDATA[Q413 Woodie Flowers and Dean's Award]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q413:
Hello.We will register to these 2 awards but we have few questions.First of all where we can register to woodie flowers?Through mentors account or a student can register it?Second one in the deans list award submission theres two nominator option but if you go to the second one it says deadline expired.But the deadline is 16 february we can only add one studen to award what should we do
 
A:
Information on the entry process for the Woodie Flowers Award can be found [here](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/submitted-awards). For your second question, please contact *FIRST* support through one of the methods shown [here](http://www.firstinspires.org/about/contact-us).
 (Asked by

6472
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/413</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:15:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/407</guid><title><![CDATA[Q407 Business plan Pictures]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q407:
Could you please give more details in regards of the "pictures" field in the business plan template, in the entrepernuership award soponsored by Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield and Byers?
 
A:
Information on picture requirements for the Entrepreneurship Award sponsored by Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield, & Byers can be found [here](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/submitted-awards)
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6694
 at Feb 7th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/407</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:13:48 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/440</guid><title><![CDATA[Q440 using a reducer which wasn't in the kit of parts]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q440:
We were wondering if it was ok to use the reducers from the link below;
www.li-ming.com/english/index.php?option=com_content&view=rticle&id=374&Itemid=357
thanks in advance,
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. If you have a question about a specific rule, please rephrase and resubmit.
 (Asked by

6415
 at Feb 6th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/440</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 14:41:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/432</guid><title><![CDATA[Q432 R29B & F Aluminium Bracket Size Limits]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q432:
Are there any size limitations, besides those established in R29B, on the aluminium brackets allowed under R29F? The limit is 1 inch away from the frame perimeter, but no limitation parallel to the frame perimeter is established. Figure 8-4 shows a tiny extrusion, while our team has an angle bracket which extends several inches away from the corner. However, the rules do not have any limitations on how long the corner brackets can be, meaning you could have a metal belt in the bumpers
 
A:
There are no limits to how far the aluminum brackets allowed by !R29 part F may run parallel to the FRAME PERIMETER, so long as the brackets are being used for the intended purpose specified in !R29 part F.
 (Asked by

1458
 at Feb 5th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/432</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:02:13 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/431</guid><title><![CDATA[Q431 Andy Mark am-2971]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q431:
Can we use am-2971 even though the motor is am-0939 which is not on the current list of allowed motors? The gearmotor am-2971 has the same specs as an allowed gearbox with an allowed motor.
 
A:
Motors not listed in !R32 are not permitted. We recommend contacting the VENDOR if you need additional clarity on which motor(s) is used in a particular product.
 (Asked by

3036
 at Feb 5th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/431</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/426</guid><title><![CDATA[Q426 Pneumatic air tanks]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q426:
Are we allowed to air up a couple of identical 125 psi air tanks and change out the air tanks on our system between matches?
May we use an external compressor to charge the On-board tanks?
May we use a separate battery to air up an on-board tank between matches OR are we required to use the on-board battery to charge the tanks?
 
A:
Question 1: No, per !R86, "No stored air pressure intended for the ROBOT may be located off-board the ROBOT."
Question 2: Yes, provided you are doing so in compliance with all applicable rules (e.g. !R84, !R85, !R90, and !R91).
Question 3: You may change the battery after pressurizing any pneumatic storage tanks, but you must be using a battery plugged into your ROBOT for the entire process per !R85.
In the future, please submit individual questions separately. This helps speed up response and make the Q&A more easily readable and searchable. Thank you!
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3492
 at Feb 5th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/426</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:00:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/423</guid><title><![CDATA[Q423 Cutting team supplied rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q423:
If at the end of a match, a robot cannot be released from the rope for whatever reason. Would a team be allowed to cut their team supplied rope to remove the robot from the field without a penalty?
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit a Team cutting their own supplied ROPE. As with all other activities, please keep safety in mind if you decide to do this.
 (Asked by

364
 at Feb 5th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/423</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:00:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/429</guid><title><![CDATA[Q429 PWM connections]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q429:
Is it permissible to control two motor controllers via a single robo Rio PWM output using a Y-cable? Does this meet the R23 intent of "directly" connecting?
 
A:
Yes, and yes (assuming you mean !R73, not !R23).
 (Asked by

386
 at Feb 5th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/429</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:58:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/427</guid><title><![CDATA[Q427 Where are the forms for 2017?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q427:
Where's the robot lock up form? Robot inspection form?
 
A:
Those forms are not yet posted, but when they are, they'll be announced in a Team Update.
 (Asked by

3654
 at Feb 5th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/427</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:57:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/424</guid><title><![CDATA[Q424 Laser use.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q424:
We have been given a class 2 distance laser by Balluff Canada - can we use it?
 
A:
Item D in the Blue Box under !R07 specifies that any exposed lasers other than Class 1 lasers will be a violation of !R07.
 (Asked by

4343
 at Feb 5th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/424</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:56:55 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/417</guid><title><![CDATA[Q417 Bumpers and velcro covers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q417:
There are bumpers for sale that use velcro to attach a blue or red cover for a rapid switch. Are these FRC legal? While our bumpers will be built according to rules, we would use a velcro attached cover for the second color. For example, we would build traditional blue bumpers, and make red covers that are attached with abundant velcro.
 
A:
Yes, with restrictions; please see !R26-B.
 (Asked by

4509
 at Feb 5th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/417</link><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:56:35 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/428</guid><title><![CDATA[Q428 USB Camera Limit]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q428:
Is there a limit to how many USB cameras we can have on the robot? If there isn't a limit, are USB hubs legal.
 
A:
There are no restrictions to the number of cameras allowed on the ROBOT, nor are there any restrictions on using USB hubs.
 (Asked by

4630
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/428</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 20:54:41 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/416</guid><title><![CDATA[Q416 G09 violation caused by BUMPER contact into an open FRAME PERIMETER]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q416:
Does G09 still apply to inadvertent/accidental damage to mechanisms inside the FRAME PERIMETER that was caused by the BUMPER contact of another robot? This is the first year in a while with a wide-open field and many likely open-frame designs with rollers at the opening of the frame. Here's an example that ignores intent like G09 implies. What if the damaged robot made a defensive move against a high-speed robot which inadvertently caused roller damage after contact with its bumpers was made?
 
A:
Yes.!G09 applies regardless of what part of the offending ROBOT caused the damage. Note that the rule requires the offending ROBOT to have initiated the contact.
 (Asked by

1885
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/416</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:23:05 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/415</guid><title><![CDATA[Q415 Refering Q153]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q415:
Referring to Q153: If, while not in its LAUNCHPAD, a ROBOT gently propels FUEL a few inches above the ROBOT’S volume, into another part of the ROBOT, does it constitute a violation of G23?
 
A:
Yes, this would be a violation !G23. LAUNCHING does not have a minimum - propelling FUEL "a few inches above the ROBOT" is still LAUNCHING.
 (Asked by

20
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/415</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:22:38 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/410</guid><title><![CDATA[Q410 Manufacturer installed loop on rope for retaining feature]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q410:
May we use a rope that has a manufacturer installed loop that is woven into the rope to use as a retaining feature. We would then use the loop in a Lark's Head Knot (question 142) only the retaining feature would already exist. There would not be a knot below the davit fingers because it is woven in a loop with an 8 inch diameter. The rope we are looking at is one like this. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Crown-Bolt-1-2-in-x-15-ft-White-and-Beige-Double-Braid-Nylon-Dock-Line-65782/203481778
 
A:
A splice created by the manufacturer is no different than a splice created by the Team. Please see !Q57 and !Q342 for answers regarding splice classification and splices as part of a retaining feature.
 (Asked by

5216
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/410</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:20:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/412</guid><title><![CDATA[Q412 No arms, extensions, fuel pick up beyond original volume?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q412:
On page 52 of 128 in the game manual it states: "A ROBOT may not exceed the volume for which it passed inspection during the MATCH.
So a robot that is part of Volume A as shown in the diagram on the same page is not allowed to have an arm or other extension of any kind during the match? Even a pickup arm that swings over the edge to pick up the fuel would cause the overall length to exceed the 36" x 40" size. Am I misreading this? Thanks.
 
A:
A ROBOT may reach beyond it's BUMPERS during the match (see !Q4), but **only** if it remains within the maximum allowed volume, per !R03 and !G04 while doing so. To do this, the ROBOT would have to initially be smaller than the maximum allowed volume.
 (Asked by

5882
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/412</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:18:07 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/411</guid><title><![CDATA[Q411 Building over but not beyond bumpers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q411:
If our bumpers are at their max length, can we build over the bumpers and start the match that way?
 
A:
No. Please see !G01 and !R02.
 (Asked by

4024
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/411</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:16:38 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/403</guid><title><![CDATA[Q403 About purposefully fraying a ROPE in compliance with I04a:]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q403:
If a team-supplied ROPE is purposefully frayed in a certain section (in compliance with Q137) and the individual strands from the fray may pull apart to a maximum width of over 1 inch depending on how the ROPE falls during a match, but can be easily compressed by hand to less than 1 inch wide for inspection, would the ROPE still be in compliance with rule I04a? If not, would a loop under 10 inches width made entirely out of frayed rope over 1 inch wide in a standalone setting be legal?
 
A:
Yes, a 1 in. nominal ROPE whose knotted or frayed diameter is still less than that required in !I04, part G (as updated in [Team Update 08](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate08.pdf)) is permitted (provided it doesn't violate any other rules, of course).
 (Asked by

834
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/403</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:15:35 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/400</guid><title><![CDATA[Q400 Rope/Davit retention pictorial]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q400:
FIRST has given several answers addressing rope retention on the Davit but still leave many wondering what is being said. Let me ask it this way; if a flat strap or thin cord is being used as a teams rope does it need a large 'granny' knot as the retention feature or can a loop be used which positively engages the fingers? Suggest FIRST send out a pictorial view/diagram showing how a loop could be acceptably used with a strap or thin rope. This would set a standard that inspectors could follow.
 
A:
Please note that !I04, part D requires a team's ROPE "be configured such that it engages securely with the FIELD with a Retaining Feature (RF) that does not extend more than 2 in. (~5 cm) below the DAVIT fingers." While the Blue Box offers one way to do this (a large-ish knot that rests on the far side of the DAVIT fingers), it's not the only way.
 (Asked by

175
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/400</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:15:05 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/398</guid><title><![CDATA[Q398 Davit Dimensions - GE-17081 (Detail for -02)]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q398:
The real field drawings for the Davit GE-17081have conflicting dimensions which affect any rope knot retention. The detail for 17081-02 shows it as 1.00 square tubing but the material callout shows 1.125 tubing. Which is correct?
 
A:
Good catch! The material note on *GE-17081, Upper Arm* has been corrected in [Team Update 08](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate08.pdf) to reflect that it's 1 in. tubing.
 (Asked by

175
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/398</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:14:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/383</guid><title><![CDATA[Q383 District Points for Digital Animation Award]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q383:
Is the Digital Animation Award considered a "judged Team award" as noted in Section 10.12.3.4, for the purposes of being awarded District Points? It appears to qualify, and the awards page (http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/2017-digital-animation-award-sponsored-automationdirect) indicates that it is a Team award which is handed out at the regional and district level, however it also indicates that the award winners will be announced prior to any competitions.
 
A:
No. The intent was for District points for awards to be earned only for awards actually judged at events, though this was not clear in the manual. This has been clarified with [Team Update 08](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate08.pdf).
 (Asked by

5803
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/383</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:13:55 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/414</guid><title><![CDATA[Q414 Chairman's award video requirement]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q414:
When submitting the application for the award. Do we have to download the video with the application? Or can we bring and add that at the regional?
 
A:
The video is not required to be submitted on Thursday, February 9, 2017. Teams must bring the video to any Event where they are interviewing for the Chairman's Award. Please see [this page](http://firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/submitted-awards) for detailed information about the Chairman's Award Submission, including the video requirements.
 (Asked by

5464
 at Feb 4th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/414</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:10:38 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/408</guid><title><![CDATA[Q408 Is an infrared device allowed on the robot if the infrared is not used during a match.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q408:
Scenario 1:
If an IR device and it's corresponding remote are permanently mounted on the robot such that the IR Rx and Tx are completely contained in an enclosure that can't communicate with anything outside of the enclosure or robot is it legal?
Scenario 2:
If an IR device is mounted on the robot such that it's IR receiver is completely covered during match play can the cover be removed and the IR remote be used in the pit and when powering the robot up on the field prior to the match.
 
A:
We don't have enough context to be able to unequivocally rule items legal or illegal, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. If you have a question about how to interpret a specific rule or what it means, please rephrase and resubmit.
 (Asked by

2481
 at Feb 3rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/408</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 15:43:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/406</guid><title><![CDATA[Q406 Do non-articulated components extending outside the robot´s count as the frame perimeter?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q406:
Some of our components are fixed outside the frame of the robot (e.g. pieces of metals, motors) but are still within the robot´s dimension limit, even above the bumpers.
Should we move this components?
 
A:
Most definitely. Please see !G01 and !R02.
 (Asked by

6694
 at Feb 3rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/406</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 15:42:52 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/402</guid><title><![CDATA[Q402 Inspection]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q402:
What paperwork does the team need to present during inspection. Is a list of COTS materials required?
 
A:
There's no explicit requirement for certain paperwork to be presented, however note that a Team must be able to present their CAW (!I07) either on paper or displayed on a tablet or netbook. Meanwhile, it's in the Team's best interest to be prepared with specification sheets on any item they believe might invite extra scrutiny from an Inspector (e.g. to prove that an item is sold as a "servo").
 (Asked by

4573
 at Feb 2nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/402</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 19:23:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/399</guid><title><![CDATA[Q399 Davit member turn edge condition>]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q399:
What is the condition of the edge on the Davit member where the rope makes a 90 degree turn? Is it rounded off, simple deburred, or cut sharp? This could be a serious rope fraying point.
 
A:
The corner is as depicted in *GE-17081, Upper Arm*. There is no radius to the corner about which you inquire, but the ends of all FIELD elements are deburred. This DAVIT is also powder coated after assembly.
 (Asked by

175
 at Feb 2nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/399</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/371</guid><title><![CDATA[Q371 Rope stowage hook & loop item]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q371:
During most of the match the ropes are stowed with a "hook & loop" strap, released by the Pilot towards the end of the match. This strap is not included in the field drawings and barely mentioned in the videos. Is the main part of the strap the hook or the loop portion? If the material of a team's rope was snared by the strap, can the pilot lift up the strap to free the rope?
 
A:
Good point. That element has been added to [*GE-17025, Airship Assembly*](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017FieldComponents.pdf) per [Team Update 07](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate07.pdf). Please see !S07 part D for the legality of contacting a "snared" ROPE.
 (Asked by

4064
 at Feb 2nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/371</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 19:22:35 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/381</guid><title><![CDATA[Q381 Using devices to lower robots safely at the end of a match]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q381:
Are teams allowed to use additional equipment to safely lower hanging robots at the end of a match?
The desire is to take the load off of the team-supplied rope in a way that does not rely entirely on direct human lifting of the robot, in order to reduce the risk of injury to the person detaching the rope.
Would it be permissible to use a stool to support the weight of the robot while a team-supplied rope is removed from the DAVIT? Or a block-and-tackle for controlled lowering?
 
A:
There are no rules that expressly prohibit a DRIVE TEAM from bringing and using equipment to aid in placement or removal of a ROBOT from the FIELD, provided it doesn't violate !G15, delay the field reset process (!G02), or cause an unsafe condition (like bulky items or trip hazards). Please note a PILOT may assist from the AIRSHIP by releasing the ROPE.
 (Asked by

2399
 at Feb 2nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/381</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 18:19:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/395</guid><title><![CDATA[Q395 How is the rope coiled?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q395:
We would like to know how the rope is coiled. We know it's deployed during the last thirty seconds of the match, but we need to know specifically how the rope is configured. It's not very descriptive within the manual, and we'd like some direct clarification. Thank you.
 
A:
There is no detailed spec about how the ROPES are "coiled" or stowed for a MATCH. Please see the [2017 Field Tour Video: In the Airship](https://youtu.be/K1mM_amcQZk) to get an idea for what to expect.
 (Asked by

5641
 at Feb 2nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/395</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:35:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/342</guid><title><![CDATA[Q342 Retaining Feature]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q342:
If a loop spliced in the end of the rope engages securely with the field by looping around one of the davit fingers, per Q142, does part of it need to be greater than one inch in diameter? Since the splice is not a knot, per Q57, and the splice itself meets the specifications of a rope, is it ok that part of the splice extends more than 2” below the davit fingers?
 
A:
No, provided it engages securely with the FIELD, there is no requirement that a retaining feature be greater than 1 in. in diameter. Yes, per !I04, part E as updated in [Team Update 05](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdates-combined.pdf) any retaining feature may extend up to 2 in. below the DAVIT fingers.
However, while one DAVIT finger is capable of supporting the weight of a ROBOT, it does not mean that a ROBOT is incapable of applying enough force to damage the DAVIT finger. A team that damages a DAVIT finger will be in violation of !G15.
 (Asked by

3974
 at Feb 2nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/342</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:34:35 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/401</guid><title><![CDATA[Q401 Bumper Question Regarding Plywood Backing Placement and Noodle Diameters]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q401:
Our robot is in compliance with rule R29, but we noticed that the plywood backings are not aligned from a side view(Some of the plywood boards were placed a little higher than others) is this ok? We also want to know if we are allowed to use 2.25 inch diameter noodles?
 
A:
Yes, per !R23, "BUMPERS do not have to be parallel to the floor."
Per !R29-C pool noodles must be "approximately 2½ in. (nominal) round". A 2.25 inch (nominal) pool noodle would not meet this requirement.
 (Asked by

6664
 at Feb 2nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/401</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:19:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/393</guid><title><![CDATA[Q393 What does R29A mean by 3/4" nominal plywood?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q393:
R29A says that bumpers should "be backed by ¾ in. (nominal) thick (~19mm) by...". Could we have clarification regarding the meaning of the nominal portion? Most hardware stores do not sell 3/4" wood, instead selling 23/32", with 3/4" requiring a special and expensive order. Would small deviations from this designated thickness be acceptable (i.e. less than 1/16" to account for manufacturing differences), or is the intent to require a particular thickness.
 
A:
Nominal lumber/plywood dimensions refer to the wood's size prior to drying/treatment/curing, at which point the wood shrinks due to moisture loss (this is also why a 2x4 is not 2"x4"). Lumber stores typically sell 3/4" plywood that is, in fact, 23/32" when actually measured due to shrinkage. As long as it's sold as 3/4" plywood, it satisfies !R29 part A.
 (Asked by

1458
 at Feb 2nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/393</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 14:41:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/397</guid><title><![CDATA[Q397 Starting in your own key]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q397:
As long as you are still touching the alliance wall, may you start angled in your own key?
 
A:
The only requirement of !G01-E, is that the ROBOT must be " in contact with its ALLIANCE WALL diamond plate"
 (Asked by

6056
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/397</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:27:32 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/396</guid><title><![CDATA[Q396 Angled Bumpers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q396:
R23 states "Bumpers do not need to be parallel to the floor." Does that mean the bumpers can be angled along the side of the frame perimeter so that the front of the bumper is facing an upward angle and extending into the frame perimeter? Assuming the bumpers follow all construction rules, remain inside the bumper zone and are connected as specified in R23.
 
A:
No, BUMPERS must be mounted with the plywood backing nominally vertical to meet the requirements of !R31.
The quote you referenced allows for the BUMPER to be angled relative to the floor in the left-to-right dimension when looking at any given face of the FRAME PERIMETER (e.g. the left side of the BUMPER could have the top at 7 in. and the right side could have the top at 6 in.).
 (Asked by

4132
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/396</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:27:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/394</guid><title><![CDATA[Q394 Bumpers for less than six-inch side on frame perimeter]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q394:
If a robot has a less than six-inch side extending from the corner of a frame perimeter, would bumpers need to cover just the entirety of the less than six-inch side or should this side be elongated to reach six inches?
 
A:
As per !R22, "If a FRAME PERIMETER side is shorter than 6 in. (~16 cm), that entire side must be protected by BUMPER (see Figure 8‑2)."
Note that this specifically refers to a "FRAME PERIMETER side", if the FRAME PERIMETER (described in !R01) side is longer than 6", even if the "frame" is shorter than 6", the full 6" must be protected and the BUMPER must be appropriately backed per !R31.
See Figure 8-1 for examples.
 (Asked by

4099
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/394</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:26:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/391</guid><title><![CDATA[Q391 Can you transfer fuel between robots?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q391:
I've seen many questions regarding G28 or controlling fuel outside of your frame. However, I haven't seen anyone ask if unloading into another robot is allowed. Would the brief period that fuel is being transferred be a rule violation? Also, if robots transfer fuel while in the neutral zone, would that be a violation of G23? Please clarify.
 
A:
Please remember that we cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE. However, if a REFEREE believes that !G23 is being violated, it will be enforced.
 (Asked by

2395
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/391</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:25:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/389</guid><title><![CDATA[Q389 Does current to an aesthetic device count the same as current to an operational device?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q389:
Does a raspberry pi controlling lights count as an active device? When it talks about current in the manual, does a current to an aesthetic device count the same as a current to an operational device?
 
A:
We're not completely sure which rule or rule(s) you're referring to, but it's assumed you're referring to !R49. A Raspberry Pi controlling lights on your ROBOT is, indeed, classified as a CUSTOM CIRCUIT per !R49 and is governed by all ROBOT rules that apply.
 (Asked by

2811
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/389</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:24:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/388</guid><title><![CDATA[Q388 Bagging a second ROBOT]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q388:
If a team were to bag a second, legal robot in addition to their first robot, could that team then give that robot to an alliance partner at competition, provided that the robot is inspected and identified in accordance to the alliance partner?
 
A:
No, this would not meet the requirements of !I01 which requires the ROBOT to be "built by the _FIRST_® Robotics Competition Team". It may also be a violation of !C04 which prohibits a Team from entering more than one (1) ROBOT into the event.
 (Asked by

5817
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/388</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:23:33 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/387</guid><title><![CDATA[Q387 Rules for detachment of robot from rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q387:
I was wondering if there is a time limit to how long we have of taking our robot down after it has hung? If there is, how long? And is there any rule about sewing a layer of Velcro over a layer of ratchet strap that is over another layer of Velcro as a rope? Velcro- Ratchet Strap -Velcro.
 
A:
In the future, please submit only one question at a time unless the questions are directly related. Regarding your ROPE question, please use the Search Q&A button to review the previously asked ROPE material questions and resubmit a question specific to a particular rule if you need additional clarification. We will not rule on particular ROPE or ROBOT designs.
Regarding your time limit question, there is no prescribed amount of time that a DRIVE TEAM has to remove their ROPE/ROBOT after the MATCH. However, DRIVE TEAMS should be prepared to remove their ROPE/ROBOT promptly to allow for FIELD reset per !G02
 (Asked by

3381
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/387</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:22:54 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/384</guid><title><![CDATA[Q384 Does GEAR placement on an out-of-order GEAR SETs matter?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q384:
There is some confusion around the word "installed" w.r.t. individual GEARs in section 3.4.2. "ROTORS only start if
GEARS are installed in ROTOR order". Does it matter if higher-order GEAR SETs have GEARs installed before low-order ROTORs are installed / activated?
E.g., if ROTOR 2's GEAR SET has no GEARs placed on it, and a PILOT places a GEAR on the GEAR SET attached to ROTOR 3, then places all required GEARs on the GEAR SET for ROTOR 2, will ROTOR 2 still activate after turning 3 times?
 
A:
Please see [Team Update 07](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate07.pdf). The placement of GEARS within a GEAR set, or across GEAR sets, is inconsequential. Remember, however, that once a ROTOR has started, any GEARS used to start it cannot be removed per !H10.
 (Asked by

1885
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/384</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:22:22 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/382</guid><title><![CDATA[Q382 Is rope with multiple I04.D techniques legal?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q382:
From I04.D: "A ROPE must...
D. consist entirely of flexible, non-metallic fibers sewn, twisted, tied, woven, knitted, crocheted, intertwined, or braided together"
A tight interpretation of "or" allows only one of the above options. A less strict interpretation could allow any or all of the options. A strict interpretation would disallow all of the above techniques with typical COTS woven, non-adhesive, sew-on hook-and-loop strips, as the strip itself was woven by the manufacturer.
 
A:
It is not the intent of the manual to use an exclusive-OR relationship with any use of the word "OR," unless specifically noted.
 (Asked by

1915
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/382</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:21:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/380</guid><title><![CDATA[Q380 Section 3.9 - Touchpad]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q380:
In the latest update section 3.9, it is stated, "...less than 75 pounds of pressure..." General usage (albeit incorrect) of pounds of pressure would indicate pounds per square inch of pressure. Since pressure is force times unit area, I believe that you meant to write force, not pressure.
 
A:
Good catch. The manual has been updated per [Team Update 07](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate07.pdf).
 (Asked by

3302
 at Feb 1st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/380</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 23:20:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/385</guid><title><![CDATA[Q385 are we allowed to push fuel]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q385:
are we allowed to push or bulldoze the fuel across the field to the boiler or are we required to pick it up and hold it what is the consequences if we are not allowed to push it
 
A:
There are no rules specifically prohibiting bulldozing or pushing FUEL.
 (Asked by

322
 at Jan 31st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/385</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:57:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/386</guid><title><![CDATA[Q386 Starting postion]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q386:
We know that we have to be up against the wall but do we have to be flushed? Could we be at an angle?
 
A:
The only requirement of !G01-E, is that the ROBOT must be " in contact with its ALLIANCE WALL diamond plate"
 (Asked by

272
 at Jan 31st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/386</link><pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:57:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/379</guid><title><![CDATA[Q379 Bumper Edge Rabbeting]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q379:
The bumper side view in the annual shows the angle aluminum surface mounted to the plywood. Since the bumpers are part of the robot volume, can the bumper plywood edges be rabbeted (inset) so the aluminum angle surface will be flush to the surface of the plywood that mounts to the robot frame?
 
A:
No, "rabbetting" is not an exception permitted in !R29, part A.
 (Asked by

175
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/379</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/368</guid><title><![CDATA[Q368 Alliance Wall to Baseline and other Measurements]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q368:
I was wondering what the official distance was from the alliance wall to the baseline I seem to see conflicting information. The rule book says 9' 4" but the drawings I printed says it is 2x 93.3. and the same goes for the distance to the launchline. Also I am wondering how big one of the sides of the base of the airship is. From what we are gathering it is just under 40 inches is that correct? Thanks
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of FIRST STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system
The most recent version of the manual matches the drawings.
 (Asked by

6056
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/368</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:56:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/360</guid><title><![CDATA[Q360 May a robot include fabricated items from another team's tagged bag?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q360:
R21 specifically allows teams to use fabricated items from another team's withholding allowance, but not from their robot bag (or bags). R15 through R20 do not appear to explicitly forbid use of fabricated items from another team's bag, but the use of "their robot" and "your robot" throughout these rules imply that the parts in a team's bag may only be used on their robot. May a robot include fabricated items from another team's tagged bag?
 
A:
Yes, a ROBOT element that was bagged "by 04:59 UTC on Stop Build Day, Wednesday, February 22, 2017" meets the requirements of !R15 regardless of which Team's bag it was in.
 (Asked by

3946
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/360</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:54:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/356</guid><title><![CDATA[Q356 What Does "Breaking" and "Crossing" the baseline mean? The more specific the better pls.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q356:
According to pages:
#13 -Section 2 Overview. Table 2-1 Auto Point Values V1.,
#41 -Section 4 MATCH Play 4.1 Periods V2,
and #44 -Section 4 MATCH Play Table 4-1 FIRST STEAMWORKS Rewards V2
What does the robot have to do in Auto to get the points?
Does the robot have to "cross the baseline" completely or does part of the bumper just have to "break the baseline"?
 
A:
There are several ways to earn points during AUTO, per Table 4-1. For the "AUTO mobility" points specifically, a ROBOT'S BUMPERS must break the vertical plane defined by the BASE LINE before the end of AUTO.
 (Asked by

5854
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/356</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:53:35 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/255</guid><title><![CDATA[Q255 LIFT specifications (spring source and shaft collar)]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q255:
In testing the McMaster spring order called out in the field components (9664K68) to one from century with identical specifications (http://www.centuryspring.com/extension-springs-e-41.html) substantial differences were found in deflection and springiness. Will all field spring be solely sourced from McMaster? Additionally, the field tour video shows a collar, while field components drawing does not.
 
A:
All FIELD springs have been sourced from McMaster-Carr, however Practice Field springs and springs used as spares for official fields may be an alternate part (and if so, we'll update the manual and publish in a Team Update when that information is available).
Regarding the collar, the [Field Tour Video](https://youtu.be/ZeOevMTC_rw) is correct, and has been added as of [Team Update 06](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate06.pdf). Thank you for noticing that!
 (Asked by

5414
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/255</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:47:51 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/378</guid><title><![CDATA[Q378 Cost Accounting - R10(B) KOP clarification - "Yellow Tote" items obtained by other means]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q378:
Does R10(B) exclusion apply to "Yellow Tote" items even if we didn't get them from a "Yellow Tote" ? We used some parts from previous years and bought some parts directly from AndyMark later. Are they exempt or listed at full retail value?
 
A:
Any item that meets the definition of KOP, even if your team did not acquire it that way (with the exception of PDV items which require your team to have acquired them in a specific manner to qualify as KOP) may be omitted from the CAW, or listed with a $0 cost per !R10-B.
 (Asked by

2813
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/378</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:52:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/377</guid><title><![CDATA[Q377 Does the bumper have to be the same length as the frame b4 the frame returns into the robo]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q377:
Figure 8-1 top image shows an opening of the robot. The top right frame is >=6 so the bumper is >= 6". If the frame was 9" but the bumper still satisfied the >=6 would this still be legal? This image looks to have a 1/2" of frame before "not a Bumper". This edge is somewhere between the not ok second image and the >=6" in the same image. If you envision the top image top two bumpers, between these bumpers 2" past the end of the >= 6" bumper the frame 90deg returned into the bot 4" with a 10" gap
 
A:
The "ROBOT frame" has no impact on compliance with !R22 except to the extent that it defines the FRAME PERIMETER. The presence, or absence, of "ROBOT frame" in sections of the FRAME PERIMETER which do not have to be covered with BUMPER to comply with !R22 do not change legality.
 (Asked by

3244
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/377</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:52:18 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/366</guid><title><![CDATA[Q366 Taking the robot down after a match]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q366:
Once the match is over and the robots are hanging on the ropes, 1. Will we be penalized if our robot unwinds itself because it has been turned off after the match is over? 2. Can we lift the robot to unhook the rope that our team will provide and take our robot off the field with the rope still attached? Thanks!!
 
A:
There is no penalty for a ROBOT that descends once DISABLED at the end of the MATCH (although the "Ready for Takeoff" bonus may not be granted if requirements outlined in *Section 3.9 TOUCHPAD* aren't met). Please see !Q300 for the second part of your inquiry.
 (Asked by

3636
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/366</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:50:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/362</guid><title><![CDATA[Q362 Multiple launchers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q362:
Any restrictions with multiple launchers on a single robot to project fuel?
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. However, there are no rules prohibiting multiple devices capable of "launching" FUEL on a single ROBOT, provided all other ROBOT rules are satisfied.
 (Asked by

5141
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/362</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:50:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/357</guid><title><![CDATA[Q357 Climbing and the bumper zone]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q357:
When it come to the climbing rules, when it says "Example 1: A ROBOT that is at an angle while navigating a ROPE has its BUMPERS outside the BUMPER ZONE. If this ROBOT were virtually transposed onto a flat floor, and its BUMPERS are in the BUMPER ZONE, it meets the requirements of R23." Is the transposition in reference to the field floor, or the bottom of the robot? Thanks.
 
A:
The transposition described in the example is virtually "undoing" any rotation and displacement caused by climbing the ROPE, but **not** undoing any changes to the ROBOT itself.
This means that a ROBOT that does not change shape at all while climbing, but rotates so the BUMPERS are perpendicular to the floor does not violate !R23 because the BUMPERS would be in the BUMPER ZONE if this ROBOT were place back on the flat floor.
If, instead, a ROBOT starts pushing a mechanism down against the floor, lifting itself up onto the ROPE, but also taking the BUMPERS outside the BUMPER ZONE this would violate !R23 as the BUMPERS are now outside the BUMPER ZONE even when the ROBOT is place on a flat floor.
 (Asked by

4132
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/357</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:05:33 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/365</guid><title><![CDATA[Q365 Actuators limitations]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q365:
Under 8.6 R32. Rule states "Electrical solenoid actuators, no greater than 1 in. (nominal) stroke and rate electrical input not greater than 10 watts (W) continuous duty at 12 volts (VDC).
We currently an AndyMark 3515 but its stroke is 50mm...illegal?? or Legal??
If Illegal, where can we get one that is Legal??
 
A:
We will not rule definitively on individual ROBOT parts. We will note that the referenced part is sold as a "linear servo" and is not an electric solenoid actuator.
 (Asked by

5155
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/365</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:05:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/369</guid><title><![CDATA[Q369 Is a servo a servo a servo?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q369:
To me this is simple, but there seems to be some difficulty on Chief Delphi, so here are the questions: Traditionally, servos are rotational devices which provide rotation-angle internal closed-loop control but do not provide feedback for "external" control. Are devices sold as "linear servos" which provide linear motion using servo standard PWM controls but producing linear rather than rotational motion considered servos under the 2017 rules?
 
A:
If it is sold by a VENDOR as a "servo", linear or otherwise, it's a servo.
 (Asked by

3946
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/369</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:05:13 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/370</guid><title><![CDATA[Q370 ROBOTs adhering to GAME PIECES?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q370:
Provided this adhesive does not leave any marks, residue, or otherwise damage on GAME PIECES, is there any restriction on adhesive ROBOT components' interactions with game pieces?
 
A:
There are no rules that explicitly prohibit using adhesives to interact with GAME PIECES.
 (Asked by

5012
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/370</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:04:51 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/376</guid><title><![CDATA[Q376 Non-metallic, non-fibrous debris in/on rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q376:
During our climb practice, we noticed that small (< 1mm) non-metallic but non fibrous pieces of the robot tore off the robot upon removal of the rope from the robot, and the debris became embedded in the rope. This debris does not provide an advantage to subsequent climbing. We are planning to use a team-supplied rope. Would the presence of such debris render the rope unusable in match play until it is completely removed?
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROPE situations, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROPE lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. When in doubt, however, Teams should ask for the ROPE to be re-inspected.
 (Asked by

3946
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/376</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:04:34 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/373</guid><title><![CDATA[Q373 Does the Andymark assembly pn am-2971 comply with r32 for motor useage?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q373:
Does the Andymark assembly pn am-2971 comply with r32 for motor useage? The am-2971 states that the motor is a banebot RS775 series but nothing more specific as identified in R32?
 
A:
The legal motors are listed in Table 8-1. If you're not sure of a VENDOR'S part number, we recommend you contact the VENDOR directly to clear up any ambiguity.
 (Asked by

240
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/373</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:04:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/374</guid><title><![CDATA[Q374 Did Team Update 05 change the comment in the answer to Q142?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q374:
The second paragraph of the answer to Q142 reads "Please note that placing any knot used to form loops, as described above, below the DAVIT fingers would violate I04-F.". However, Team Update modified I04-F such by appending "with a Retaining Feature (RF) that does not extend more than 2 in. (~5 cm) below the DAVIT fingers." Provided that the knot was within 2 inches of the DAVIT fingers, does this update modify that second paragraph? If not, why not?
 
A:
Good catch! Please see !Q142 as updated per [Team Update 05](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdates-combined.pdf).
 (Asked by

3946
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/374</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:03:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/375</guid><title><![CDATA[Q375 Can a robot drop its gear deliberately into the opponents loading station?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q375:
Can we use our extra gears to drop into the opponents loading zone?
I don't believe we would not be violating
G08 Don’t tear others down to lift yourself up - "NOT DESTRUCTIVE, NOT ON ROBOT"
G27 One-GEAR limit.{Blue box not control ."A" "bulldozing "} - "They would not be penalized so we are not either"
G24 Don’t throw GEARS
This one may put the stop to it BUT WOULD IT?
G21 GAME PIECES: use as directed... but "Return LOADING STATIONS" are not listed?
 
A:
Just like in the answer to !Q166, please note that deliberately placing GAME PIECES in front of any FIELD elements (for example, but not limited to, the opponent's Return LOADING STATION) could result in a violation of !G21.
 (Asked by

3244
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/375</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:58:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/372</guid><title><![CDATA[Q372 Weighing bumpers during inspection]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q372:
Assuming R25 compliance, may the robot be weighed WITH the bumpers on during inspection? In other words: If the entire robot+bumper assembly weighs less than 120lbs, can it be asserted that the robot would weigh less than 120lbs without the bumpers?
 
A:
No. The ROBOT and BUMPERS will be weighed separately to assess compliance with !R05 and !R28.
 (Asked by

619
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/372</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:35:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/367</guid><title><![CDATA[Q367 Perimeter protrusions]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q367:
Under Sec. R02, will small extremely flexible plastic members, such as wire tie tails up to maybe three inches long, be considered "minor protrusions"?
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event.
A protrusion that is 3 in. long is very unlikely to be considered minor.
 (Asked by

4073
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/367</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:25:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/364</guid><title><![CDATA[Q364 Winch Motor Legal?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q364:
Under rule 8.6(Motors and Actuators), would a motor on a purchased winch be considered to be a "Select Automotive Motor" and therefore a legal motor?
 
A:
No, a winch motor is not a "Window, Door, Windshield wiper,
Seat, Throttle" as listed in !R32, and thus not permitted.
 (Asked by

5658
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/364</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:17:33 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/363</guid><title><![CDATA[Q363 Breaking the Baseline at the Middle Lift Station]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q363:
Is it possible to break the baseline at the middle lift station. For example, if a robot were to drive from the alliance station wall directly to the wall of the middle airship lift, would that robot earn the mobility points for breaking the baseline in auto?
 
A:
Yes, it is possible to break the BASELINE at the middle LIFT position. However, the ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE.
 (Asked by

1507
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/363</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/349</guid><title><![CDATA[Q349 Robot size specifications]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q349:
What is the exact process the officials go through to determine if the volume of a robot meets specifications?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS, not discuss the processes or procedures that will be used at events. If you have a specific concern or comment, please direct it to Team Support at [firstroboticscompetition@firstinspires.org](mailto:firstroboticscompetition@firstinspires.org).
 (Asked by

3323
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/349</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:12:19 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/306</guid><title><![CDATA[Q306 What level of fraying constitutes damage under [G15], and when would it be called?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q306:
In our hook-and-loop winch drum tests many of our ropes fray, and how much seems to depend on many factors. The fraying in some tests happens a few fibers each time. In other tests, the fraying is more obvious. Is any level of fraying considered normal wear and tear? To a referee what approximately separates damage from wear and tear with respect to fraying while interacting with any robot component (hook-and-loop or not). At what point in the match would [G15] be called for fraying?
 
A:
We cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE. There is no *FIRST* Robotics Competition specific definition of wear-and-tear, if the REFEREE(S) determine the damage is the direct result of a ROBOT action or MECHANISM it is possible that !G15 would be called. Teams should design carefully to ensure they do not cause any damage when attempting to climb a FIELD ROPE. If you're not referring to a FIELD ROPE, please see !G15, as updated in [Team Update 06](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate06.pdf).
 (Asked by

1885
 at Jan 30th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/306</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/361</guid><title><![CDATA[Q361 Preloaded Game Pieces]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q361:
If we start the autonomous round with fuel and/or gear, do we need to do something with them? If so, must they be used in AUTO or can they be used in TELEOP?
 
A:
There are no rules specifically restricting the usage of preloaded GAME PIECES once they have been legally loaded onto a ROBOT per Section 4.2. Once the MATCH has started these GAME PIECES are treated just like any other GAME PIECE.
 (Asked by

5471
 at Jan 28th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/361</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2017 18:26:15 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/359</guid><title><![CDATA[Q359 Robot volume inspection?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q359:
Section 9 (inspection & eligibility) does not give any indication on how robots will be inspected for compliance with R03? Will it be a tape measure, do tolerances exist? If it will be an inspection box, can/will FIRST release the box specifications? If a box is used, what will be the criteria of passing inspection. e.g. 1. Robot not touching the box at all. 2. Robot only fits the box with extreme compression of bumpers. This is information teams need to know to ensure they pass inspection.
 
A:
A ROBOT that requires "extreme compression of the BUMPERS" to comply with !R03 does not comply with !R03.
ROBOTS must fit within the volume specified in !R03; teams should not be counting on any particular procedure or tolerance to make sure they fit within that volume.
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364
 at Jan 28th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/359</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2017 18:23:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/353</guid><title><![CDATA[Q353 Using Hinges on Bumpers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q353:
As said in R29:F, you are allowed to use aluminum brackets to fasten bumpers together at a 90-degree angle. Would it be acceptable to use a metal hinge for the same purpose, given that both bumpers will be fastened to the frame 90 degrees from each other?
 
A:
No, hinges are not aluminum sheet or angle and thus do not meet !R29-F.
 (Asked by

1245
 at Jan 28th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/353</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2017 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/325</guid><title><![CDATA[Q325 Game Pieces Transfer from Loading Zone to Alliance Station]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q325:
Ref section 4.6, "GAME PIECES that roll, slide, or otherwise transfer from a LOADING LANE to an ALLIANCE STATION (or vice versa) are considered “owned” by the ALLIANCE in the space now occupied by the GAME PIECE. " What constitutes a GAME PIECE to "occupy" the Alliance Station. Must the GAME PIECE complicatedly be in the volume of the Alliance Station, or is "breaking the plane" (i.e. football touchdown) satisfy the "occupy" standard?
 
A:
A GAME PIECE is considered available to an ALLIANCE if any part of the GAME PIECE is breaking the plane of the ALLIANCE STATION volume. However, per !H07, DRIVE TEAM Members may only contact the portion of the GAME PIECE that is inside their zone.
 (Asked by

1369
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/325</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/338</guid><title><![CDATA[Q338 Touchpad force leeway?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q338:
This question is similar to #219. My team would like to know if there is an additional leeway to the 1-3 lb force to trip the touchpad. For example, if we are 1-2 pounds over (or several) when we stop climbing the rope will this damage any of the field components?
 
A:
We believe !Q219 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
 (Asked by

2840
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/338</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:19:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/301</guid><title><![CDATA[Q301 Knitted fibers for Rope?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q301:
I04-D permits non-metallic fibers that are "woven". Are "knitted" fibers permitted? While similar to "woven", there is a technical difference.
 
A:
Yes, "knitted" fibers are permitted. Please see [Team Update 06](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate06.pdf).
 (Asked by

2202
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/301</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:19:07 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/299</guid><title><![CDATA[Q299 Damage to Team Provided rope.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q299:
With regard to R06 - R09 and Arena Damage -- If there is picking and fraying caused by Velcro hooks on the climbing spool to the teams rope, but no other field element is damaged is this a violation of R06 - R09? We understand our rope might be subject to re-inspection and might have to be replaced with a fresh rope. GDC says "Why did we let them bring their own rope" :) -- Thanks for all you do!!
 
A:
We actually don't feel like we need to govern what happens to Team supplied ROPES. Please see [Team Update 06](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate06.pdf).
 (Asked by

1598
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/299</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/219</guid><title><![CDATA[Q219 What is the maximum force a robot can apply to the touchpad when climbing?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q219:
As per section 3.9 in the manual. Teams may wish to consider a reasonable “safety factor” for TOUCHPAD activation and assume that no more than 3 lbs. (~1.4 kg) of vertical force is required. Does this mean the maximum force that can be applied is 3lbs when lifting a 120lbs robot? If not what is the maximum force that can be applied before damage will occur to the touchpad?
 
A:
Please see [Team Update 06](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate06.pdf).
 (Asked by

5086
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/219</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:17:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/323</guid><title><![CDATA[Q323 District teams 6 hours bag unlock for back to back districts]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q323:
For teams who have back to back districts (Districts 2 starts the day after District 1 ends), will a combined 12 hour window of our of the bag and tag be allowed?
 
A:
Per !R19, District teams may only use the ROBOT Access Period for
a total of six (6) hours during the 7-day period preceding any 2-day event in which their Team will be competing with their ROBOT. Since your events are back-to-back, the 7-day period preceding each would overlap, and if you wish you may use both six (6) hour access periods during that overlap, for a total of twelve (12) hours.
 (Asked by

3211
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/323</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:48:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/352</guid><title><![CDATA[Q352 Picking up fuel in auto.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q352:
Provided that a robot never has more than ten fuel at any moment, can a robot A. pick up fuel in auto and B. score said fuel in the boiler. Also if a robot can pick up fuel in auto, may it pick up more than ten at one time and score them?
 
A:
!G01-F applies only at the start of the MATCH. Once the MATCH has started, there is no restriction on the number of FUEL a ROBOT may possess. Therefore, A) yes and B) yes.
 (Asked by

3244
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/352</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:47:27 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/351</guid><title><![CDATA[Q351 Entry on Cost Accounting Worksheet]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q351:
On the sheet is it enough to put Chassis Kit 2 - Axle Bolt (orange) for the description and KOP for the Source or do we need to itemize each item that is in that Kit?
 
A:
Per the Blue Box below !R10, "If the item is a KOP item, it does not need to be on the CAW."
 (Asked by

5679
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/351</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:46:53 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/350</guid><title><![CDATA[Q350 robot extend over bumper]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q350:
the robot hopper is being designed to extend over the bumpers, but not past the bumpers.
Is this allowed if we stay within the parameters of the assigned volume space.
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. Please consider !R02.
 (Asked by

263
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/350</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:46:24 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/348</guid><title><![CDATA[Q348 About the use of a pixie camera]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q348:
We are new to this competition and we were wondering if we could use a pixy camera as a part of our hardware since we believe it could be useful for our design our options are Pan/Tilt Kit for Pixy CMUcam5 Image Sensor or Pixy CMUcam5 Image Sensor
Thanks for your time.
 
A:
There are no rules that govern what kind of camera that may be added to a ROBOT. However, pay special attention to !R36 with respect to any Pan/Tilt mechanism.
 (Asked by

6406
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/348</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:45:19 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/347</guid><title><![CDATA[Q347 Clarify: Sewing velcro to outside of Rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q347:
Team Update 3 (Jan 17) permitted non-metallic fibers to be sewn together with the rope. Can answers prior to Jan 17 (such as Q6, Q21, Q45) be considered "revised" or "superseded" regarding sewing a non-metallic fiber form of Velcro to the outside of the rope for non-whipping purposes and outside of the 4" whipping zone?
 
A:
We have reviewed the answers to !Q6, !Q21, and !Q45 and have found no conflicts with the current rules (including the changes made in [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate03.pdf)).
 (Asked by

2202
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/347</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:44:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/346</guid><title><![CDATA[Q346 Can I use this?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q346:
Are we allowed to use Velcro as a material for our climbing rope?
 
A:
We believe a combination !Q45, !Q21, and !Q6 answer your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
 (Asked by

4980
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/346</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:44:33 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/343</guid><title><![CDATA[Q343 Bumpers are NOT part of Perimeter of ROBOT defined in G04 and R03]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q343:
There seems to be continued confusion about bumpers in the two variants of ROBOT volume (frame and effectors ONLY). It seems clear to our team that only the robot frame and extending robot components must remain within the chosen variant perimeter at ALL times, but bumpers are not in this equation (otherwise the B Variant could not use the stock chassis in the KOP without modification). Is it true that bumpers are NOT part of the perimeter dimensions defined in G04 and R03? Thanks. :)
 
A:
Bumpers are included in the maximum volume, we believe !Q77 makes this clear. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
 (Asked by

5477
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/343</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:44:07 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/336</guid><title><![CDATA[Q336 Knots Coming Undone]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q336:
To clarify Q293/Q152 and Q138, can a knot intentionally come undone provided that the rope always meets the length and other requirements?
 
A:
Yes, please see !Q152.
 (Asked by

3974
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/336</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:43:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/341</guid><title><![CDATA[Q341 Multiple Knots in the Rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q341:
If we were to have multiple knots in the rope, is there a minimum required distance between each knot (besides the 29 in. between the retaining feature knot and the knot right below that)?
 
A:
There are no specific restrictions on knots below the 29 in. requirement; however, note that the ROPE must remain flexible as configured to comply with !I04-I.
 (Asked by

2444
 at Jan 27th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/341</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/291</guid><title><![CDATA[Q291 Bumper Thickness]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q291:
Bumpers thickness the rules read that they need to be 3/4 inch plywood and 2.5 inch pool noodles meaning the bumpers should be 3.25 inch. However the rules then go onto say "Noodle compression as a result of smoothing BUMPER fabric is not considered deformed. Any compression beyond that , e.g. for the purposes of flattening the noodle, is deformation and a violation of R29-". Since this is very arbitrary on the thickness could we please get a ruling on minimum thickness of bumpers
 
A:
No, no specific minimum will be provided beyond the rules you have already cited.
 (Asked by

1756
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/291</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/345</guid><title><![CDATA[Q345 Is there a graphic/logo available for the Gear game piece?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q345:
Is there a graphic/logo file available for the Gear game piece? The image incorporated in the Manual is an angled side view image. Our team would like a front view only, vector image.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Please send your question to <a href="mailto:firstroboticscompetition@firstinspires.org?Subject=Need%20Assistance" target="_top">Team Support</a>.
 (Asked by

5110
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/345</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:02:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/344</guid><title><![CDATA[Q344 Boiler High Goal]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q344:
What is the horizontal distance between the boiler's high goal and the alliance wall?
We tried to find this distance (or any information about the boiler's position) in both the rules and the field assembly (https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017FieldAssembly.pdf), but without any success.
It is possible that we missed this information. We would appreciate it if you could provide us an answer.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
 (Asked by

1574
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/344</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/340</guid><title><![CDATA[Q340 How is the length of the rope measured?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q340:
If there were to be slack behind the retaining feature of the rope, would it be included in the length of the rope?
 
A:
Per !I04 parts B and C, the length of the ROPE will be measured "from the side of the ROPE’S retaining feature (per I04-E) that abuts the DAVIT fingers (L), to the farthest point on the ROPE from this feature." Note that per !I04-H the ROPE may not extend more than 5 in. from "the side of the ROPE’S retaining feature (per I04-E) that abuts the DAVIT fingers, to the closest end on the ROPE from this feature (S)."
 (Asked by

3624
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/340</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:00:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/339</guid><title><![CDATA[Q339 Horizontal distance from the rope to the veritcal wall of the airship]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q339:
What is the horizontal distance from the rope to the vertical wall of the airship?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
 (Asked by

3624
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/339</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:00:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/337</guid><title><![CDATA[Q337 End of Match and Robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q337:
Once the match ends, the power to the robots is cut off. Are we allowed to take off the rope if the rope belongs to the team and carry the robot away with the rope still attached?
 
A:
We believe !Q14 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. **Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.**
 (Asked by

4579
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/337</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:59:53 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/335</guid><title><![CDATA[Q335 Gears and Fuel during Match Setup]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q335:
In section 4.2 of the game manual, it says that teams may elect to:
A. pre-load one gear in or on their robot
AND
B. pre-load up to ten fuel in or on their robot.
this has stirred some discussion amongst member of my team because we have watched the kickoff video multiple times and the video shows robots with only one of the two choices. Please clarify this section so we know if we are able to load both into our robot without recieving any penalties.
 
A:
The Manual is the governing body, thus a Team may load both types of GAME PIECES in their ROBOT per *Section 4.2 MATCH Setup*. The game animation is intended to describe game play through information and examples, and not intended to be an authority on the rules.
 (Asked by

4006
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/335</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:59:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/334</guid><title><![CDATA[Q334 Error message when running sample program]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q334:
Hi, we are running the benchtop test program for our robot using Java running on Eclipse. When we run the sample program, we get the error message:
"Caught exception: scp: /usr/local/frc/lib/User_Libraries.properties: No such file or directory"
We have followed every direction leading up to this point, so cannot figure out why this error appears when we run this code with the RoboRIO attached.
Please advise. Thank you.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. For technical assistance, please visit the [FIRST Forums](http://forums.usfirst.org/forumdisplay.php?23-FIRST-Robotics-Competition).
 (Asked by

6636
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/334</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:59:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/333</guid><title><![CDATA[Q333 Robot size]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q333:
With reference to R03 stating that the bumpers are included in the frame measurement. Does that me that the robot frame must be (referencing cube "B") six and one half inches less than the described 30 in. by 32 in. by 36 in. tall to accommodate the bumpers outsides to be inside the cube?
 
A:
There is no prescribed size for the ROBOT frame, or an exact specified size for the BUMPERS. If your robot is rectangular, it is expected that your FRAME PERIMETER should be approximately 6.5 in, or more, smaller than the maximum volume in each dimension in order to allow for BUMPERS (nominally .75 in plywood + 2.5 in. pool noodle + fabric).
 (Asked by

3323
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/333</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/332</guid><title><![CDATA[Q332 R37: TX1+J140 integrated LiPo charger essential for manufacturer intended drone operation]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q332:
We intend to use an Nvidia TX1 "CPU" mated to an Auvidea J140 "mother board" that in addition to TX1 voltage regulators, integrates a laptop 2S LiPo battery charger and connector - essential for intended drone applications. The LiPo is charged by the J140 from the robot battery. The J140+TX1 "ISP" will process data from 3 CSI cameras & interface to roboRIO via ethernet. No actuators connected to the ISP; ISP powered by intended battery. Is this unmodified drone ISP classified as a laptop?
 
A:
Whether the resulting combination is "classified as a laptop" or not is irrelevant to legality for the 2017 FRC. Neither the TX1 nor the J140 appear to be sold with an integrated battery in any configuration that we can find. The inclusion of battery charging capability does not make a battery integral to device.
The intent of the exception in !R37 is to allow teams to utilize devices, such as laptops, GoPro cameras, cell phones, etc. which contain batteries (the entire solution including battery, connection, etc) without violating !R37. The intent is not to allow teams to take devices such as Raspberry Pi's or Nvidia Jetson TX1's which are not designed or sold with batteries and attach some other COTS battery to them.
 (Asked by

1559
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/332</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:58:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/331</guid><title><![CDATA[Q331 Dropping a rope on a robot of the opposing alliance]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q331:
Consider a rope of the red alliance being dropped and landing on a blue robot on its way back to its own airship during the last 30 seconds of the match. Did the red alliance pilot who dropped the rope violate C08 (Don’t expect to gain by doing others harm) by forcing the blue robot to violate G20 (Let ‘em climb: don’t touch their ROPES)? This is a distinctly different question from Q159 because that asks about dropping a rope onto ones own robot.
 
A:
If a REFEREE is able to determine that the intent of dropping the ROPE was solely to cause the opposing ALLIANCE to violate a rule, then this would be a violation of !C08. If the REFEREE cannot determine this, the ALLIANCE will be given the benefit of the doubt that dropping the ROPE was part of normal gameplay and the opposing ROBOT would be assessed a FOUL per !G20.
 (Asked by

1257
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/331</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:57:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/330</guid><title><![CDATA[Q330 Are Ethernet switches legal?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q330:
My team would like to place an Ethernet switch on the robot in order to provide more ports for interfacing the RoboRIO, the wireless radio, and multiple network cameras together. Is using such a device legal?
 
A:
There are no specific restrictions with regard to Ethernet switches, however, please make sure your configuration follows !R63 (in addition to all other Robot Rules).
 (Asked by

5557
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/330</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:57:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/328</guid><title><![CDATA[Q328 Gearbox issue]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q328:
Can we use gearboxes with allowed motors. Specifically, can we use gearbox PG188 with AndyMark motor am2161. The combination is listed as am2924 on the AndyMark webpage.
 
A:
There are no explicit restrictions regarding which gearboxes may be used with which motors on the ROBOT with the exception of the integral gearboxes for the previous KOP Window motors and Bosch motor. These two motors must use the integral gearbox.
 (Asked by

3036
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/328</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/322</guid><title><![CDATA[Q322 District Model Timeline? Ontario...]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q322:
Does each event follow the same time line for the district model?
If so what is each day's itinerary?
Day 1 is only at 4pm? to drop off parts??? Any work or testing this day?
When does Day2 start? Describe itinerary to clarify for teams with 30 lbs allowance, for planning ahead purposes & clarification.
Open pits times, what can be done when? Robot out of bag to work on when? Into bag when? A team out of competition can at the event they still work on robot until closing?
 
A:
Each event will post a public agenda on its [Event Information page](http://firstinspires.org/team-event-search#type=events&sort=name&programs=FRC&year=2016&from=2017-02-01&to=2017-12-16). Please see !R18, part G and !R19 for specifics regarding teams attending 2-day (i.e. District) events.
 (Asked by

6330
 at Jan 26th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/322</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:56:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/327</guid><title><![CDATA[Q327 Sponsor machining cost in the CAW]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q327:
Could you clarify the intent of R12 Blue Box Example 5? If the company is listed as a sponsor and donates machine time and labor, but only some of the machinists are directly involved with mentoring the students while others are not, can we exclude the cost of the donated labor and machine time from the CAW?
 
A:
Per the !R12 Blue Box, Example 5, "If the machinists are considered members of the Team, their labor costs do not apply." If you do not consider the machinists members of the team, then labor costs would need to be accounted for. The intent of this is described in the next paragraph of the Blue Box.
 (Asked by

5842
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/327</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:17:01 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/326</guid><title><![CDATA[Q326 Follow up to Question 259]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q326:
On Drawing GE-17026, 2 dimensions are provided. Per our calculations, in order for the airship to be perfectly hexagonal, the height must be 69.34265 in. This number was found using the Pythagorean theorem where side A is 40.035 in (length provided by CAD drawing) and C is 80.07 in (diameter of hex). If you use trig with the height (70.5 in) you get a side length of 40.703 in. Using these 2 measurements, we are not able to construct a perfectly symmetrical hexagon to build. Can you clarify?
 
A:
As noted in !Q259, CAD drawings are provided by the individual software Suppliers. We will also note that the AIRSHIP is constructed from three-dimensional shapes, not lines, so we encourage teams to be careful about where measurements are referenced from.
 (Asked by

128
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/326</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:11:36 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/324</guid><title><![CDATA[Q324 BOILER Netting Details]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q324:
What are the specifications for the netting above the BOILER? The field component drawings for GE-17371 omit the net, and section 3.11.4 of the Game Manual only lists relative dimensions. Can you share any product details like cord size, mesh width, or material type, to help teams accurately simulate competition conditions?
 
A:
As noted in the Field Tour Video ["The Boiler"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJQ4kMwOGtI), the netting around the Boiler is not intended to behave consistently. As such, there are no specific drawings published, and no guarantees of the exact "competition conditions" of a given Boiler net (though it will meet the relative dimensions mentioned in the manual).
 (Asked by

148
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/324</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/313</guid><title><![CDATA[Q313 gear rotor]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q313:
Is the gear rotor removable, or does each gear train have its own rotor? If so, and the rotor is dropped to the floor, is there a penalty?...how does the team return it to the pilot?
 
A:
Sorry, but we're unable to understand your question. ROTORS are attached to the FIELD and it's not possible for them to be dropped to the floor. Please rephrase and resubmit using the Glossary terms from the Manual where applicable.
 (Asked by

4060
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/313</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:29:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/311</guid><title><![CDATA[Q311 Meaning of serialized inspection tag for rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q311:
What exactly is the serialized inspection tag on page 45 in the manual? Is it something we will receive after our rope is inspected at an event or does it have another meaning? Thanks.
 
A:
After passing Inspection, a serialized inspection tag will be attached to the ROPE near the retaining feature, such that it will not get in the way of a ROBOT interacting with the ROPE.
 (Asked by

316
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/311</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/309</guid><title><![CDATA[Q309 R35 - Gearmotors with a relay]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q309:
In Update 4, R35 was updated with the addition of Banebot motors to Electrical Loads that can operate with a motor controller but not a relay module. If a Banebot motor is used with one of the Banebot gearboxes would that fall into the second gearmotor/window motor category like an AndyMark PG (can use motor controller or relay) or is that still considered just a Banebot motor (motor controller only)?
 
A:
Attaching a gearbox to a motor has no impact on it's status with regards to Table 8-2 and !R35.
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4048
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/309</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/296</guid><title><![CDATA[Q296 wrapping versus twisting velcro - clarification of Q6]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q296:
In your response to Q6, you state "something ... wrapped around the outside of the ROPE does not satisfy this requirement". Can you please clarify the difference between "wrapped" and "twisted ... together" which is allowed per I04? I can unwrap / untwist the strands of plain manila rope to make 2 separate smaller ropes the same way I can unwrap / untwist manila rope with an extra stand of Velcro to make 3 separate smaller ropes.
 
A:
There's no *FIRST* STEAMWORKS specific definition of those two terms, so a dictionary comparison will have to do. From Merriam Webster, for "wrapped," intransitive verb #1: "to wind, coil, or twine so as to encircle or cover something." "Twisted together" isn't a dictionary term, but if you consider the term "twist," transitive verb #1: "to unite by winding <twisting strands together>," the inherent contrast is that the former describes a superficial application while the latter is a weaving together of strands such that the applied material is embedded in the base material.
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2973
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/296</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:27:52 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/310</guid><title><![CDATA[Q310 Q297 Conflicting Answer]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q310:
In Q297, the question reads, "So if we omit the can-bus connection, will we pass the inspection?", to which the answer reads, "Yes, please see R77." R77 reads, "The PDP CAN interface must be connected to the CAN-bus on the roboRIO...". I believe this answer was made in error. Can you please verify that either R77 is correct, the CAN bus must be used between the PDP and roboRIO, or the answer to Q97 is correct that it can be omitted (and that R77 would then be updated in a future Team Update).
 
A:
Thank you for pointing out this conflict. The question title in !Q297 is "Do we have to connect can-bus between the PDP and the NI roboRIO?" which is what the "Yes" referred to. The answer to !Q297 will be updated to clarify.
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5881
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/310</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/321</guid><title><![CDATA[Q321 Autonomous Period - Fuel & Gears]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q321:
Each robot starts Autonomous with 10 fuel and 1 gear:
Can 1 robot transfer the 10 fuel to another robot in autonomous and that robot scores all 20 fuel pieces?
If yes. Can 1 robot transfer in Autonomous their gear and one robot then places both gears on to the lift? Or even in Autonomous 1 gear moved per robot at one time?
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit one ROBOT from giving its GAME PIECES to another ROBOT once the MATCH has started. However, keep in mind that !G27 applies at all times, including AUTO.
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6330
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/321</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/312</guid><title><![CDATA[Q312 Can we put our retention pin through the loop on our rope?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q312:
Can we put our retention pin through the loop of our rope? Or do we have to rely on the knot to keep the rope in place?
 
A:
We believe !Q158 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
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2081
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/312</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:39:47 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/307</guid><title><![CDATA[Q307 Airship Dividers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q307:
What is the distance between the dividers on the airship as well the angle of the interior divider between the airship wall.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
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3468
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/307</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:35:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/302</guid><title><![CDATA[Q302 Driving over a gear while holding a gear]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q302:
In relation to Q166 and Q54, if there is a GEAR blocking the LIFT, would our ROBOT draw a foul by driving over it, while holding another GEAR onboard, to place a GEAR on the blocked LIFT? In other words, if we were to contact a second GEAR (without intentionally moving it out of our way) while trying access the lift, would that be considered "trapping"/"herding" (a foul under G27) or "bulldozing"?
 
A:
We cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE. If a ROBOT makes "inadvertent contact with GEARS while in the path of the ROBOT moving about the FIELD" (generally including driving over) it is bulldozing. If a ROBOT is "holding a GEAR against a FIELD element" or "intentionally pushing a GEAR" it has violated !G27.
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4028
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/302</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/300</guid><title><![CDATA[Q300 Lowering robots from the ropes after the match ends]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q300:
Are teams allowed to remove their robots from the ropes, after the match ends, by untying the ropes themselves from the davits?
 
A:
Per the Blue Box attached to !R08, if a Team brings their own ROPE, yes. !R08 does not accommodate Teams removing FIELD elements, e.g. a default FIELD ROPE, from the FIELD.
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4191
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/300</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:12:26 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/278</guid><title><![CDATA[Q278 R31 BUMPER Gaps]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q278:
If we cover the corner with a bumper of 6" on each leg supported by 2" one each end, do we need a frame support in the corner of 1/2" x 1/2" or can the 8" gap be 4" on one side and continue an additional 4" on the other side of the frame.
 
A:
Each end of each BUMPER wood segment must be supported. Please see !R31 as updated in [Team Update 05](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate05.pdf).
 (Asked by

5474
 at Jan 25th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/278</link><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:11:56 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/305</guid><title><![CDATA[Q305 Bumper Corner not in contact with the Frame]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q305:
R31 requires "a minimum of 1/2 in. at each end of the BUMPER must be backed by the FRAME PERMIETER.". However, R30 requires Corners to be filled with pool noodle material (the "Overhang"). The Overhang of the end of the Bumper is not backed by the Frame Perimeter. I believe R31 should have an exception for the Overhang.
 
A:
Please see [Team Update 05](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate05.pdf)
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2202
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/305</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:39:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/304</guid><title><![CDATA[Q304 Must the Bumper touch the Corner?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q304:
R31: Bumper is "supported" by 1/2" of the Frame Perimeter (FYI: "PERMIETER" is misspelled in R31). A gap of 1/4" between the Bumper and the FP is allowed. Assume the Bumper covers the entire side of the Robot, the mounting hardware is 5" from each end, and no part of the Bumper is more than 1/4" away from the Frame Perimeter. Due to the mounting hardware, there is a 1/8" gap between the bumper and the FP. Can the corner of the FP not be in contact with the Bumper?
 
A:
Yes, 1/8 in. is less than the 1/4 in. required per !R31-A.
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2202
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/304</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:39:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/298</guid><title><![CDATA[Q298 R 06 and Robot Rope Climbing Mechanisim]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q298:
With regard to R06 and Robot safety -- Would it be a violation if the surface of the take-up spool is covered with very rough small sharp metal protrusions that that engage with a team supplied rope? This surface would be covered during transport, but exposed while on the field in competition. There would also be clear labeling around the area. Additionally if there is picking and fraying caused by this to the teams rope, but no other field element is this a violation of R06 - R09?
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. !R06 makes no accommodation for shielding or labeling.
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1598
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/298</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:38:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/294</guid><title><![CDATA[Q294 360 degrees Camera]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q294:
Could we use a 360 degrees camera?
We could not find any specifications about the camera, so any other information involving cameras will be appreciated.
 
A:
There are no rules which explicitly allow or restrict cameras on the ROBOT. All cameras used must meet all applicable ROBOT Rules. !H12 specifies what elements DRIVE TEAM members may have/use during the MATCH.
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6694
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/294</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:37:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/277</guid><title><![CDATA[Q277 Hook and Loop]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q277:
In reference to all the hook and loop questions, after scouring the internet and contacting several suppliers, it appears that most if not all brands of hook and loop (Velcro, Industrial Webbing, Dura-Grip, WBC, etc.) have applied a "binder coat" to all of their sew-on (non-adhesive) products to prevent fraying when cut. This appears to violate rule I04-D for use as part of a rope. What is the official ruling on this?
 
A:
Please see [Team Update 05](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate05.pdf).
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3302
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/277</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:37:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/276</guid><title><![CDATA[Q276 Retaining Device / Knot at Davit Fingers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q276:
In Q142, you stated that placing a knot that formed a loop for the retaining device (RD) below the davit fingers (DF) would violate I04-F, implying that above it it would be ok. If the knot is considered part of the RD (in this case), there seems to be no rule stating that the retaining feature must be fully above the DF. Also, if it is not part of the RD, then placing it above the davit fingers would still violate I04-F, as it would not be 29" below the retaining fingers. Which is it?
 
A:
Please see [Team Update 05](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate05.pdf).
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3302
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/276</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:36:58 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/303</guid><title><![CDATA[Q303 Follow-Up on Q183 and R37 Implications]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q303:
There is a laptop with battery essential to its operation on a robot. If all components were stripped except for its integrated battery and motherboard, would this modified device meet R37?
 
A:
No, the device is no longer a COTS computing device if it is modified, which means it would not meet the exception in !R37.
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422
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/303</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:06:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/297</guid><title><![CDATA[Q297 Do we have to connect can-bus between the PDP and the NI roboRIO?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q297:
Since our motor controllers don't involve can-bus, it seems useless for us to connect can-bus between the PDP and the NI roboRIO. But it seems necessary since it is written in Wiring_the_2017_FRC_Control_System.pdf. So if we omit the can-bus connection, will we pass the inspection?
 
A:
### Updated to address difference between title question and body question, added text in bold (1/25/17).
Yes, **the PDP and the roboRIO must be connected via CAN,** please see !R77. **A ROBOT without that connection is not compliant with !R77 and will not pass Inspection.**
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6353
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/297</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:53:15 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/295</guid><title><![CDATA[Q295 Round Rope vs. Flat Rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q295:
Does a teams' custom rope have to be round for its thickness or can it be flat? Figure 9-1 shows a flat rope and a round rope but is not specific on whether the flat rope is legal or not.
 
A:
There are no restrictions in !I04 requiring a ROPE to be round.
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2444
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/295</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/293</guid><title><![CDATA[Q293 Usage of knots with team brought rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q293:
Are we allowed to have a loose knot in the rope that we provide that will intentionally come undone during the match but will not exceed the length limitation when both tied and undone?
 
A:
We believe !Q152 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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2141
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/293</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:49:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/292</guid><title><![CDATA[Q292 Frame Perimeter]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q292:
Once the match starts, can the robot extend past the frame perimeter? As in dumping a hopper into the boiler.
 
A:
We believe !Q4 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. **Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question**.
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3242
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/292</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:49:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/287</guid><title><![CDATA[Q287 Can the pilot lift a gear from the robot during the autonomous period?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q287:
Since the pilot can operate the lift to remove the gear from the robot during the game, we were wondering whether they can do this during the autonomous period as well, provided that the robot drives to the lift and secures the gear on the lift without human help.
 
A:
We believe !Q38 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
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4179
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/287</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/290</guid><title><![CDATA[Q290 Bumper Construction requirements for areas of the bot that do not require a bumper.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q290:
Can you have any bumper in a position that does not require a bumper, but does not meet the bumper height. We want to build a bumper that is the 5" full height 6" from the ends, per rule R29, but only 1.5" high between the 6" ends. So between the 6" ends, where no bumper is required per R29, can we build a 1.5" bumper that provides some protection to the our bot and other bots?
 
A:
No, assemblies which do not meet the full listed requirements of a BUMPER are not a BUMPER and therefore would be included in the exemptions\exclusions for BUMPERS in !R01 and !R02, resulting in the described configuration being illegal.
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2137
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/290</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:01:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/289</guid><title><![CDATA[Q289 Vendor of pneumatic cylinders?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q289:
In R82-A, it states that items must be available in the KOP in order to be legal in the pneumatic system. Does this restrict us to using only Bimba cylinders available via the PDV? Or may we use cylinders from any VENDOR?
 
A:
!R82 provides a list of pneumatic components that are allowed on a ROBOT. Item A states that all pneumatic components provided in the KOP, with the exception in Item K, are allowed on a ROBOT - even if it is not found in any of the other items in the list. Item J specifically allows pneumatic cylinders, and no requirement of VENDOR is stated.
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4263
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/289</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:00:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/288</guid><title><![CDATA[Q288 Can the output of one solenoid valve be the input of another?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q288:
R95. states "The outputs from multiple solenoid valves must not be plumbed together." does this only refer to in parallel operation? Would it be legal plumb one solenoid such that it supplies pressure to the second solenoid or it vents it. The intent is to have a cylinder with 3 states; direction A, direction B and free/vented"
 
A:
!R95 does not prohibit plumbing the output of a pneumatic solenoid to the input of another solenoid. However, take care to make sure the resulting configuration complies with !R94.
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5059
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/288</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:58:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/286</guid><title><![CDATA[Q286 Confetti Poppers?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q286:
To help cheer on my team, are we allowed to use confetti party poppers? Like those ones that pop out streamers and confetti when you pull out the string.
 
A:
While the spirit of your question is apprecipated, please see [E06](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/event-experience), particularly the noisy items. Additionally confetti is likely to make a mess of the venue/arena and is strongly discouraged.
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4980
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/286</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:57:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/285</guid><title><![CDATA[Q285 If multiple loops are in the rope, are there restrictions on where these loops can be?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q285:
In section 9, it says that the rope can have ‘some modifications … (e.g. tying knots)’ Are we allowed to have a loop (or loops) instead of a knot that is part of the way up the rope instead of at the bottom? Is there a restriction as to how far UP the rope it can be (other than 104-F saying it must be 29" below retaining knot.)
 
A:
All parameters for Team supplied ROPES are listed in !I04. If any of those are unclear, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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1512
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/285</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:57:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/283</guid><title><![CDATA[Q283 Clarification of Battery Terminal Restrictions]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q283:
R37-F specifies "Nut and bolt style" terminals. Are batteries with integral nuts permitted?
Example: PowerSonic PS-12180HD-M5 http://www.power-sonic.com/images/powersonic/sla_batteries/ps_psg_series/12volt/PS12180HDM5.pdf
 
A:
No. Batteries with integral nuts do not meet the requirement of !R37 part F.
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2399
 at Jan 24th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/283</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:56:55 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/284</guid><title><![CDATA[Q284 Additional Battery]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q284:
We are using a Raspberry PI for Vision this year. Can we use an approved USB battery for the PI. My concern when the power is shutoff from the Raspberry PI without issuing a propper shutdown command it might corrupt the operating system on the PI
 
A:
No, a seperate USB battery is not integral to the Raspberry Pi and thus is not allowed per !R37.
 (Asked by

20
 at Jan 23rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/284</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:13:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/267</guid><title><![CDATA[Q267 Can retroreflective tape be used at the loading station?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q267:
Would it be allowed to bring a vision target (retroreflective tape on a board) onto the field and put it against the loading station wall so the robot can line up to the loading station? The retroreflective tape would be a clearly different shape than the lift target and the high boiler target. If retroreflective tape would not be allowed, would it be allowed instead to bring a brightly colored non-retroreflective board and put it against the loading station wall?
 
A:
Teams may not leave anything on the FIELD per !G01, part B. While there's no rule that explicitly prohibits a non-powered signalling device that uses retro-reflective tape, if it interferes with the remote sensing capabilities of another ROBOT, it's a violation of !H12.
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2877
 at Jan 23rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/267</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:12:22 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/259</guid><title><![CDATA[Q259 Airship sidewall dimension]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q259:
We were trying to figure out the length of one wall of the base of the airship. We were using measurements off of the blueprints that you've provided and found that the dimensions given to us from GE-17026 do not physically create a perfectly symmetrical hexagon (all angles equal to 120 degrees). The lengths we calculated for that sidewall also do not match that of the CAD drawings. Could you provide clarification for these dimensions?
 
A:
CAD models are provided by FIRST Suppliers, the Field Components drawing package are the official drawings that are used to construct the playing fields.
A perfectly symmetrical hexagon can be constructed from any length side so we do not understand your question regarding side length.
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128
 at Jan 23rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/259</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:49:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/282</guid><title><![CDATA[Q282 multiple touchpads by a single robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q282:
The red alliance has one robot that is able to climb, a robot from blue is blocking a rope on defense and touches it. An untriggered touchpad is now activated as per rule G07. Can the red bot still climb the same rope that blue touched, trigger the touchpad, and now the foul counts for either of the other two untriggered touchpads resulting in 2 touchpads triggered? Or must the red robot climb one of the two remaining ropes that have not been touched as the first one already has been triggered?
 
A:
If a REFEREE determines that !G07 has been violated during the MATCH, the assignment of an untriggered TOUCHPAD is assessed at the end of the MATCH. If the Red ALLIANCE (in your example) has one ROBOT "ready for takeoff" at the end of the MATCH (regardless of which ROBOT it is), the free TOUCHPAD for the !G07 violation is awarded for one of the two positions left un-triggered, thus scoring a total of two ROBOTS as "ready for takeoff."
If a !G07 violation occurs and all ROBOTS on the affected ALLIANCE become "ready for takeoff," there is no un-triggered TOUCHPAD, and thus no additional TOUCHPAD awarded.
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5216
 at Jan 23rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/282</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:51:26 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/270</guid><title><![CDATA[Q270 loading station question]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q270:
when you put a gear into the slot in the loading statiom, are you allowed to push it down or do you have to let it just slide with gravity?
 
A:
There is no prohibition against pushing a GEAR into the LOADING STATION, but be careful not to violate !S08.
 (Asked by

2851
 at Jan 23rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/270</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:35:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/272</guid><title><![CDATA[Q272 Touchpad at T=0]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q272:
Figure 3-21 Touchpad activation illustrates holding the touchpad for a minimum of 1 second, but, it also shows the touchpad being held slightly past T=0. If at T=0 the power is cut and the robot begins to descend back to mother earth are the points still awarded? The switch was still activated at T=0.
 
A:
In order to be awarded the "Ready for Takeoff" points, as per Section 3.9, the TOUCHPAD plate must be continuously displaced at least 0.5 inches for at least one second, and during that time T=0 must happen. Therefore even if the TOUCHPAD plate is sufficiently displaced at T=0, if the continuous time that the TOUCHPAD plate was sufficiently displaced is not at least one second, the "Ready for Takeoff" points will not be awarded.
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4248
 at Jan 23rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/272</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:12:26 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/281</guid><title><![CDATA[Q281 Can a composite rope be braided along a short segment or must the entire rope be braided?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q281:
Does the term "consist entirely" in 104D mean that all fibers of a composite rope (see Q187) be braided (or twisted, tied, woven...) along the entire length of the rope, or would braiding (or knotting- see answer to Q187) one end of a composite rope such that the inner core fibers and outer fibers are braided together for a short segment of the rope meet 104D? In other words does the term "entirely" only apply to flexible, non-metallic fibers, or does it also apply to twisted, tied, woven...?
 
A:
The ROPE must consist entirely of fibers that are attached together in one of the ways specified in !I04, but they do not need to be attached in that manner along their entire length.
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3189
 at Jan 23rd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/281</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 16:09:36 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/279</guid><title><![CDATA[Q279 Is it legal to use a servo that has no documented stall maximum current?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q279:
My team is using a servo in our robot, but we can’t find a document regarding its maximum current (in stall). This data is required for the inspection due to the fact that “rev robotics servo power module” is capable of supplying up to 15A for all its servos, and we’re using two servos, so we need to prove that each one consumes a maximum of 7.5A.
can we show the inspector a live test with a current measurement with multimeter as a proof for those servo’s legality?
 
A:
There is no rule limiting the stall current of servos. The limit you have referred to is a functional limitation of the device, not a rule.
 (Asked by

2230
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/279</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:19:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/275</guid><title><![CDATA[Q275 G28 Air propelled FUEL]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q275:
Assuming that all propulsion and direction actions and mechanisms employed to do so are within the confines of the robot's permitted volume (G04), is it permissible to use forced air to propel FUEL with the intention of securing a deposit in a BOILER for scoring purposes? Note that G28 only specifies a FUEL outside these confines and does not specify if a FUEL already in motion within these confines constitutes a violation upon breaking the dimensional pane of a robot's permitted volume.
 
A:
We believe !Q19 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
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2506
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/275</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:19:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/274</guid><title><![CDATA[Q274 R48 "easily visible"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q274:
Assuming that all other R## requirements are satisfied (particularly R47), what constitutes "EASILY visible"? [emphasis added] To clarify the question, does it require that the components be available for visual inspection with zero physical interaction with the robot, or can it require a panel, drawer, or access door to be actuated by hand to expose the components (ex: such as used with commercial heavy equipment or household fuse boxes) to view them? How easy is easy enough?
 
A:
It's expected that some simple manipulation of the ROBOT may be required for inspectors be able to complete their work. Having to simply actuate a panel, drawer, or access door is 'easy' enough.
 (Asked by

2506
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/274</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:18:48 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/273</guid><title><![CDATA[Q273 Can we use multiple sensors on a co processor?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q273:
Are we allowed to use sensors on a coprocessor (lab view) in addition with the DIO on the roboRIO? and to be activated along side those sensors connected to the DIO?
has anyone ever tried this or know how to do this? ( both programming and setup)
we are trying to use multiple sensors past the 10 DIO limit with the possible use of a coprocessor instead of a DIO extension (DIO mxp).
 
A:
We believe !Q50 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
As for the second part of your question, the purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. For technical assistance, please visit the [FIRST Forums](http://forums.usfirst.org/forumdisplay.php?23-FIRST-Robotics-Competition).
 (Asked by

4641
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/273</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:18:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/271</guid><title><![CDATA[Q271 Can the pneumatic system be used to inflate a balloon]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q271:
Can we use a pneumatic solenoid be used to control the inflation and deflation of a short piece of surgical tube. We are aware that the surgical tube may burst if we have a malfunction, but we have tested this and feel it does not create a robot or personnel safety issue since any small fragments, if any, are soft and will loose energy rapidly over a few feet.
 
A:
No, please see !R43 and !R82.
 (Asked by

3588
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/271</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:17:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/269</guid><title><![CDATA[Q269 Do FPV goggles count as acceptable safety glasses for the drive team?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q269:
Would, for example, a pair of Fatshark FPV Goggles (http://www.getfpv.com/fatshark-dominator-v3-fpv-goggles.html), be legal to be used by a driver or operator in lieu of safety glasses while driving?
 
A:
Only if the FPV goggles are also ANSI-approved, UL Listed, or CSA rated non-shaded safety glasses as required Per !S01 .
 (Asked by

1391
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/269</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:13:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/268</guid><title><![CDATA[Q268 Position of Drive Team Members Operating the Robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q268:
I can not find a clear answer to the restrictions on the locations of the drivers during a match. I know from past years that the coaches are allowed to move around the alliance station freely. Are drivers allowed to do the same?
 
A:
Please see !H07 regarding DRIVE TEAM member location. This covers the location of the actual DRIVE TEAM members themselves. If you are asking about whether DRIVE TEAM member can get a significant distance from their PLAYER STATION while operating their ROBOT, please see !C12, paying special attention to the blue box.
 (Asked by

3624
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/268</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:13:17 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/266</guid><title><![CDATA[Q266 Are the balls preloaded in the two hoppers?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q266:
The two hoppers that are located around the field. Are those preloaded? With 100-200 balls?
 
A:
Yes, the HOPPERS are pre-loaded with FUEL by FIELD STAFF before the MATCH starts, with one hundred (100) in each HOPPER (i.e. fifty (50) in each HOPPER container). Please see details in [Section 4.2](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/Sections/04-MatchPlay.pdf). Also, there are five (5) HOPPERS around the FIELD. See Figure 4-1, same section.
 (Asked by

4965
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/266</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/265</guid><title><![CDATA[Q265 Pneumatics - Solenoïds]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q265:
Can we connect two pneumatic cylinders to only one solenoïd knowing the consequences?
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit this.
 (Asked by

5553
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/265</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:08:53 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/264</guid><title><![CDATA[Q264 Interior Bumpers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q264:
OnBumper figure 8-1, the first robot perimeter has an interior cutout. For this, will we need to cover the corners via overhang of our bumpers or put bumpers inside?
 
A:
The first ROBOT depicted in Figure 8-1 has a concave feature, however its FRAME PERIMETER is the black, bold rectangle (imagining the string helps differentiate between the two concepts). Per !R22, ROBOTS are required to use BUMPERS to protect all *outside corners* (emphasis added) of the FRAME PERIMETER. No element not on the FRAME PERIMETER needs to be protected by BUMPERS, and only outside corners need to be protected. This same rule give requirements for how much protection is required. If you still have questions after considering this, please rephrase and ask again.
 (Asked by

3336
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/264</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:08:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/263</guid><title><![CDATA[Q263 Knot type for support]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q263:
Can we use a delrin ball or bar with a slot cut thru it, with a strap going thru it then knotted. use the ball or bar with the knot on the lower end to go into the DAVIT fingers?
 
A:
We believe !Q85 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
 (Asked by

3458
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/263</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/262</guid><title><![CDATA[Q262 Structural Adhesive to bond two parts]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q262:
Are we allowed to use structural adhesive to bond two parts together? It would be non-toxic after it sets.
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit use of adhesives on the ROBOT, but adhesives are not compliant with !I04.
 (Asked by

5480
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/262</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:07:17 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/261</guid><title><![CDATA[Q261 VEX 393 Motors]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q261:
Are they allowed this year? I know when have used them in the past.
 
A:
These motors are not listed in !R32 and so are not allowed.
 (Asked by

867
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/261</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:06:15 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/246</guid><title><![CDATA[Q246 Robot Configuration Limits]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q246:
Can robot end effectors extend past the frame perimeter and into the bumper area? For example, the Ri3D Team Indiana had their ball collector and sorter extend above and into the bumper area: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg1wLnnqFZ0&t=1m49s
 
A:
We believe !Q4 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
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5472
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/246</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/260</guid><title><![CDATA[Q260 Making Q & A more readable and easier to search]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q260:
Listing all of the previous questions and answers the way you have it is fine if your reader is searching it with a computer (or a smart phone).
Is there some way to compile the list of Q&A so that they can be easily searched and/or printed out. If I try to print out the pages as they are, I can only get about half a page with characters large enough to read without a magnifying glass.
There has to be a way to save them so that I could print any or all of the pages with one command.
 
A:
This forum is only for answering rules-related questions, However, we are interested in team feedback on all issues related to the program. Please send your comments to frcteams@firstinspires.org.
 (Asked by

386
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/260</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:54:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/258</guid><title><![CDATA[Q258 Motor Visibility]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q258:
Our team was planning on putting an Andymark planetary motor within some PVC piping. We were wondering if we could do this or if it had to be visible? If it doesn't have to be visible, does it have to be easy to disassemble or remove so that we may show the inspectors that it is a legal motor that has been unmodified and matches the part number?
 
A:
There are no rules requiring motors to be visible. However, you are correct in your assumption that inspectors need to check the legality of the motors you used before they will pass you. Making it easy for inspectors to see your motors is highly recommended, for both your sake and theirs.
 (Asked by

3654
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/258</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:52:34 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/257</guid><title><![CDATA[Q257 Rope Retaining Feature]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q257:
Can the ROPE's retaining feature (per I04-E) be a loop that wraps around the DAVIT fingers?
If this is allowed, is the RF considered to be the entire loop to satisfy the 1 in.
requirement of I04-E or just the knot that forms the loop ? Similarly, for the purposes
of I04-H, how is the parameter S measured relative to the loop and/or the knot that forms the loop?
 
A:
Please see !Q142 regarding loops and the DAVIT fingers.
I04-E requires that a ROPE engage securely with the FIELD. The Blue Box provides a guideline about how to do so.
The dimension required per !I04-H is measured from where the retaining feature abuts the DAVIT fingers to the farthest point on the near end of the ROPE.
 (Asked by

4079
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/257</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:48:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/256</guid><title><![CDATA[Q256 2017 Inspection Checklist]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q256:
Will there be a "2017 Inspection Checklist" similar to the one created for 2016? Where / when can we find this?
 
A:
Similar to previous seasons, the Inspection Checklist will be released near the end of the Build Season. The intent behind releasing the Inspection Checklist is not to replace the Robot section of the Game and Season Manual, but to allow teams to perform their own "pre-inspection" on their completed, or nearly completed, robots.
 (Asked by

5585
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/256</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:47:54 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/254</guid><title><![CDATA[Q254 Battery Charger- SB50 - SB120 converter]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q254:
R38 says _Any battery charger used to charge a ROBOT battery must have the corresponding Anderson SB connector installed._ If we’re using an SB120 connector on our ROBOT, but our battery chargers come with an SB50 connector installed, can we use an SB50 to SB120 converter? It will be insulated from end to end (charger to battery).
 
A:
Yes, that would meet the requirements of !R38.
 (Asked by

2468
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/254</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/253</guid><title><![CDATA[Q253 Can teams use a smoke machine in the pit area?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q253:
Are teams allowed to construct decorative items for their pit area that incorporate an element that releases non-toxic steam into the air periodically? It wouldn't be a constant release, but just occasional and made out of water vapor.
 
A:
There's no explicit rule against such an item, however if event management deems it a safety hazard (e.g. it affects visibility), it will need to be removed per [E58](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/event-experience).
 (Asked by

4019
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/253</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:45:52 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/252</guid><title><![CDATA[Q252 R31. BUMPER Gaps]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q252:
Can the 8" gap of R31 wrap around the corner of the frame or is it just allowed along one side?
 
A:
Per !R22, ROBOTS are required to use BUMPERS to protect all outside corners of the FRAME PERIMETER.
 (Asked by

5474
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/252</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:45:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/250</guid><title><![CDATA[Q250 What happens to fuel that overflows a overflow bin?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q250:
3.11.5 RETURN & OVERFLOW BINS .
Are there spare overflow bins to use while emptying your overflow bins. And what happens to fuel that ends up on the floor if it does not land in a overflow bin? Can it be picked up and put in the bin when it is available?
 
A:
Per Section 3.11.5 there are two (2) OVERFLOW BINS in each ALLIANCE STATION. How these OVERFLOW BINS are used is up to the ALLIANCE.
There are no rules that prohibit a HUMAN PLAYER from picking FUEL up off the ground in their areas. However, per Section 4.6, "GAME PIECES that roll, slide, or otherwise transfer from a LOADING LANE to an ALLIANCE STATION (or vice versa) are considered “owned” by the ALLIANCE in the space now occupied by the GAME PIECE." and retrieval of such a GAME PIECE is a violation of !H07.
 (Asked by

5086
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/250</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:45:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/238</guid><title><![CDATA[Q238 Velcro "rope"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q238:
At the risk of being redundant..please settle a this discussion...are the plastic "loops" on Velcro branded strips legal as "fibers"?...our team is looking at using the hook & loop strip for the entirety of our rope.
 
A:
No. Just kidding. Yes.
 (Asked by

2723
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/238</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:43:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/224</guid><title><![CDATA[Q224 Extension of the Bottom plate of the TOUCHPAD]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q224:
Is the bottom plate of the TOUCHPAD assembly held down solely by gravity or is it assisted by a spring?
 
A:
Gravity; there's no spring. A drawing of the TOUCHPAD assembly is now included in the [Field Component drawing package](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017FieldComponents.pdf) as of [Team Update 04](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate04.pdf).
 (Asked by

2848
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/224</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:42:32 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/223</guid><title><![CDATA[Q223 Thickness of the Bottom Plate in the TOUCHPAD assembly.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q223:
What is the thickness of the Bottom Plate of the TOUCHPAD assembly? The CAD model shows that it is 0.25 inch thick polycarbonate. The field tour video entitled, The Ropes, appears to show the thickness of the bottom plate to be greater than 0.25 inch. It looks like 2 thicknesses of 0.25 thick polycarbonate.
 
A:
Our apologies for the omission of the TOUCHPAD drawings from the [Field Components drawing package](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017FieldComponents.pdf). They have been added as of [Team Update 04](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate04.pdf), where you'll see that the thickness of the plate is 1/2 in.
 (Asked by

2848
 at Jan 22nd 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/223</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:41:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/251</guid><title><![CDATA[Q251 Corner Bumpers 4 or 8?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q251:
Is a corner bumper of 6" on each side considered 2 bumpers or 1 bumper?
 
A:
Considering there are no rules concerning the number of BUMPER segments, we are not sure we understand the question. Please clarify and resubmit.
 (Asked by

5474
 at Jan 21st 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/251</link><pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:17:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/244</guid><title><![CDATA[Q244 Number of AndyMark NeverRest motors allowed per Motor Controller?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q244:
How many AndyMark NeverRest motors are allowed per motor controller? The motor specs are comparible with the rest of the motors listed under "Yes(up to 2 per controller)", but the NeverRest motor itself is not listed anywhere in the table in R35.
 
A:
You are correct that the NeveRest was missing from Table 8-2. Sorry about that! Please see [Team Update 04](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate04.pdf) where the NeveRest has been added to the table.
 (Asked by

5012
 at Jan 20th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/244</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:47:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/242</guid><title><![CDATA[Q242 Can the radio be powered through passive 12V on the 18-24V port.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q242:
Can the required Ethernet cable between the RoboRIO and the Radio, per R63, be constructed such that the radio can be powered by the passive PoE on the Radio's 18-24V Ethernet port. This configuration is implied in R51's blue box.
 
A:
Yes, splitting the appropriate conductors, or using a pigtail that does so, would meet both !R63 and !R51.
 (Asked by

340
 at Jan 20th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/242</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/241</guid><title><![CDATA[Q241 Lowering bot after bot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q241:
How are the robots going to be lowered after they climb the rope for takeoff (post match)?
 
A:
Each DRIVE TEAM is responsible for retrieving their ROBOT from the FIELD, including FIELD ROPES, per !G06 after the lights on the field go green (per !S04). If a ROBOT has climbed the Team's supplied ROPE, the team may remove the ROPE/ROBOT pair from the FIELD together.
 (Asked by

4579
 at Jan 20th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/241</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:47:05 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/249</guid><title><![CDATA[Q249 Multiple Sections of Rope Tied Together As The DAVIT Knot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q249:
Follow-up to Q174. If we choose to use multiple sections of rope, but connect the sections at the DAVIT knot (RF) such that one section of rope is the only non-metallic fibrous material below the RF, is the DAVIT knot subject to the maximum width (W) answer of Q174? The intent would be to create a thin section for climbing, mated at the retaining knot made of a thicker/stronger non-metallic fibrous material at the DAVIT while maintaining legality of S, RF, W, and the answer to Q174.
 
A:
If the only place the materials are held together is the knot, then the knot must be considered to be tying the materials together per !I04-D and thus part of the ROPE itself. This make's it subject to the maximum width per !I04-A.
 (Asked by

1885
 at Jan 20th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/249</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:16:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/247</guid><title><![CDATA[Q247 Legality of aerosol coatings on the rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q247:
If the rope were legally made from "flexible, non-metallic fibers," is it legal to coat the rope in an aerosol coating such as paint? Would it only be legal in the bottom portion of the rope that is allowed to prevent fraying?
 
A:
No, an aerosol spray is not a flexible, non-metallic fiber. No, coating in aerosol spray is neither whipping nor fusing.
 (Asked by

5763
 at Jan 20th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/247</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/245</guid><title><![CDATA[Q245 Can we place magnetic materials on our ROPE?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q245:
As I04-D in Section 9 describes, the ROPE must be made of non-metallic fibers. However, we wonder whether we can place a compound of iron which has magnetic force instead of monatomic iron. In other words, does the word "non-metallic" refers to materials that don't contain any metal elements in the compound or just refer to materials that don't contain monatomic metal and their alloy?
 
A:
No metal of any kind, regardless of form or type, may be used in the ROPE.
 (Asked by

6353
 at Jan 20th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/245</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:14:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/243</guid><title><![CDATA[Q243 Are fans made with a propeller and legal motor allowed?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q243:
It states in R32 that fans aside from those in the kickoff kit and computing devices are prohibited. Would a device consisting of a metal propeller, attached to the shaft of a legal motor (such as a member of the CIM family) be considered a fan? If not, are there safety concerns that would prohibit usage of such a device?
 
A:
!R32 lists legal motors and actuators. There is no rule against taking a motor listed in !R32 and using it to create some type of fan-like device. Per !S03 though, as you note, ROBOTS must be safe. The determination on whether or not a ROBOT is safe will be made at the event by the inspection crew. You should be prepared to explain to inspectors at your event why you believe your particular design is safe.
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5333
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Q240:
Concerning the regulation of having a minimum of 29" between the securing knot and any possible loops or knots in the climbing rope: What is the length of the rope between the securing knot and the bottom touchpad surface that goes through the DAVIT?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
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3006
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Q248:
The FRC manual application on Android (and possibly iOS) has not been updated with the 2017 FRC competition manual and updates. The application has also apparently disappeared from Google Play. In particular it was useful for getting the competition manual updates pushed out to the teams. Will it again exist or perhaps there's an alternate rather than downloading PDFs?
 
A:
No, the PDF downloads are the only official source of the 2017 Game Manual.
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2619
 at Jan 20th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/248</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/239</guid><title><![CDATA[Q239 Does anyone had the full dimensions of the gear pegs head?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q239:
In the manual it has how far off the ground the gear peg is, but not very detailed dimensions. Does anyone know where we can find these?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
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3336
 at Jan 20th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/239</link><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:54:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/237</guid><title><![CDATA[Q237 rope flexibility]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q237:
In rule 104i it states the rope "be flexible such that it’s not capable of being pushed to activate the TOUCHPAD" and in the blue box it states "Flexible means that if the ROPE is held at any point, it should not extend more than 12 in. above the point where it is held. ROPES are meant to be pulled, not pushed" Does this mean that under no circumstances may a rope be able to extend 12" above the held point, or just that the rope just can't be able to push the Touchpad, or both?
 
A:
Ultimately, the !I04, part I requires that the ROPE not be constructed in a way that pushing it activates the TOUCHPAD. The Blue Box offers a general, relatively simple test to make sure that's not going to be the case.
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5348
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Q236:
Can 550 paracord be used for rope to climb the airship? Our paracord includes a twisted core within a braided sheath. Is this within regulations?
 
A:
We believe !Q187 answers your question. If not, please rephrase and resubmit.
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3006
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Q190:
Given the flexibility definition of I04-D's blue box, the possibility of rope stretching a bit under forces, and the pesky nature of gravity, it feels important to ask: Are the measurements of Figure 9-2 to be taken while the rope is laying on the floor, hanging in the air, or in any arbitrary configuration?
 
A:
The intent of !I04 is to regulate the ROPE as it will be used on the FIELD. If there is any question regarding compliance with !I04, measurements should be taken with the ROPE as close to the FIELD configuration as possible (i.e. hanging in the air). If the ROPE is elastic, Inspectors are likely to check its two extreme lengths to ensure compliance.
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5402
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Q233:
Re: R32, is a automotive linear door lock actuator considered a door motor
 
A:
Yes, a door lock actuator would be considered a door motor provided it is powered by a motor and not an electric solenoid.
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348
 at Jan 19th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/233</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:19:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/232</guid><title><![CDATA[Q232 LED on robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q232:
Would it be okay to have LED's on the robot that activate when a button is pushed by the drivers for the purpose of letting the pilot know when to drop the rope.
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit "an LED from activating" based on a "button press by the drivers" provided that all other ROBOT and OPERATOR CONSOLE rules are followed.
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5508
 at Jan 19th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/232</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:18:05 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/231</guid><title><![CDATA[Q231 Legality of adhesive ATTACHMENTS onto the rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q231:
Hi there, various previous questions have been answered regarding the use of adhesive materials (velcro, tape, etc.) and their legality. Most responses claim that adhesives are not legal due to them not being "flexible, non-metallic fibers." However, if the primary rope construction did consist of "flexible, non-metallic fibers," would the inclusion of an adhesive material on the outer layer of the robe be allowed?
 
A:
The outer layer of the ROPE is still the ROPE, and thus must still entirely consist of "flexible, non-metalic fibers". A chemical adhesive (e.g. glue) would not meet this definition. But some types of hook-and-loop fastener do entirely consist of "flexible, non-metallic fibers", and would be legal per !I04.
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5763
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Q230:
We can't find anything against this, but it's strange enough to ask now rather than at inspection. Are discontinuous changes in bumper height allowed, provided both sides of the discontinuity fit within the 0-7" criterion from the floor level? As an example: a rectangular robot has bumpers along three faces LOW within the bumper zone (perhaps 1/2" of clearance), but along the fourth "rear" face, extending into the corner, the clearance is near the maximum allowed to fit in the bumper zone.
 
A:
There are no rules requiring all BUMPERS to be at the same height, provided they all reside within the BUMPER ZONE per !R23.
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3946
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Q229:
Does the robot body need to be covered in transparent material such as plexiglass, or is it allowed to use thin sheet metal to cover exposed robot framework? We plan on using the sheet metal to create a hopper to hold the fuel for the game in.
 
A:
There is no rule expressly prohibiting the use of sheet metal.
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5720
 at Jan 19th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/229</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:15:40 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/228</guid><title><![CDATA[Q228 Electrical panel accessibility]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q228:
We are wondering if the electrical panel can be placed under clear plexiglass in a drawer that could be pulled out for inspection. The panel will still be visible when the drawer is closed.
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. There are no rules that explicitly prohibit clear plastic over ROBOT elements, but be aware of rules that require specific elements be readily accessible (e.g. !R47).
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4632
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Q187:
Many ropes are composites made up of a braided outer cover containing a parallel fiber core. These parallel fibers are not braided, twisted or woven together, but are an integral part of the rope, sometimes acting as the primary load-bearing member, and sometimes merely supporting the load-bearing cover. Would such rope be a violation of I04 -D? Examples of ropes of this design include New England Ropes' Sta-Set X, clothesline, cheap hardware store polypropylene ropes, and even bungee cords.
 
A:
A rope that does not "consist entirely of flexible, non-metallic fibers sewn, twisted, tied, woven, or braided together" does not meet the requirements of a ROPE in *FIRST* STEAMWORKS. However, if knotted, it is "tied...together," and meets the requirement of !I04-D.
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2903
 at Jan 19th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/187</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2017 19:55:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/207</guid><title><![CDATA[Q207 S07 Lost Lift Pull Cord Outside Port]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q207:
Looking at the field drawings and field tour videos, it seems that it would be very easy for a pilot to drop or kick the handle and rope of the pull cord out the port. There doesn't seem to be any mechanism to keep the pull cord from falling all the way down to the field carpet.
Please indicate if there is a safe way to keep the cord from dropping, if there is a safe way to retrieve it without violating S07, or if the lift is rendered useless for the remainder of the match.
 
A:
It is the responsibility of the PILOTS to keep the handles of the LIFTS on-board the AIRSHIP during a MATCH. Reaching outside a PORT for any reason, including to retrieve a LIFT handle, during a MATCH, is a violation of !S07. This is a serious safety concern.
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3225
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Q227:
Is it allowed to use heat along the length of a rope to fuse the edges and prevent fraying?
 
A:
Fusing a rope along the entire length would not meet the exception for the "last 4 in. of any cut end" and would therefore not meet !I04-D.
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4506
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/227</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:45:41 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/220</guid><title><![CDATA[Q220 Knot Tightening]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q220:
Related to unanswered questions Q135, Q152, Q173, and Q190, but more specific... May knots be 'loose' (but less than 10" dia) such that, applying force to the free end of the rope during the match, they 'tighten' (in the process changing the "length measured from the side of the ROPE’S retaining feature (per I04-E) that abuts the DAVIT fingers (L), to the farthest point on the ROPE from this feature.")?
 
A:
We believe !Q152 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
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4027
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/220</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/212</guid><title><![CDATA[Q212 Additional Hardware]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q212:
Could we include additional hardware with the robot?, i.e. Raspberry PI
We would like to add hardware such as Rasp BERRY PI, in order to control Vision Devices.
Please, let us know if this is possible
 
A:
There is no specific prohibition of co-processors. Please see !R61 and its Blue Box for more information.
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6694
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Q184:
Can the last 4 inches of the rope be frayed on purpose? Are the last 4 inches of rope REQUIRED to be whipped, fused or covered?
 
A:
For your first question, we believe !Q140 covers the answer. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
For the second portion, no, per !I04-D: "except for the last 4 in. (~10 cm) of any cut end (E) which __may be__ whipped [...]" (emphasis added)
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5268
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/184</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:41:41 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/183</guid><title><![CDATA[Q183 R37 - COTS Device Batteries]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q183:
Can you please clarify the intent and meaning of Rule R37 in regards to batteries that are integral to and part of a COTS computing device or camera? Must it be packaged with the COTS device? Can batteries for COTS devices be changed out? Must the battery be sold with the COTS device or can it be purchased separately? What characteristics make a battery "integral to and part of" a COTS device?
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT components, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. Generally, Merriam-Webster defines integral as "essential to completeness". For example, most laptops are designed to have a battery, this would make the battery "essential to completeness".
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900
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/183</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:41:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/174</guid><title><![CDATA[Q174 Rope With Multiple Sections]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q174:
Is it permissible for a loop in a ROPE to consist of multiple sections of nonmetallic fibers? For example, could a rope be folded over to create a bite then have a small section of another rope tied between the primary rope's legs, forming a loop?
 
A:
There are no rules requiring a ROPE to consist of a uniform material; however, note that any tying done to form the ROPE from constituent fibers would be part of the ROPE and must conform to the 1 in. maximum diameter per !I04-A.
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639
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/174</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:41:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/173</guid><title><![CDATA[Q173 Changing Rope Length During A Match]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q173:
Is the length of a ROPE allowed to change during a match, provided it stays within the length requirements at all times? If so, how would it be inspected (in its original length, final length, or both)?
 
A:
We believe !Q152 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the top bar before posing a new question.
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639
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Q162:
104 E indicates the rope must secure safely with the field. In place of a stopper knot, can the team tie the line securely to the release pin? For small diameter lines this may be more secure than a knot. Alternatively, could a team secure a wooden block or other object to the top of the line so it does not pass through the davit?
 
A:
We believe !Q158 answers your first question and that !Q85 answers your second question. If they do not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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2084
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/162</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:40:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/156</guid><title><![CDATA[Q156 Velcro on rope - is sewing ok?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q156:
With regards to making a rope with velcro, would sewing the Velcro to the rope assembly be counted as tying it?
 
A:
Please refer to !Q139.
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4466
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/156</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:39:54 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/152</guid><title><![CDATA[Q152 Variable Length Rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q152:
Would a rope with a knot which allowed the overall length of the rope to change during the match (e.g. an adjustable bend) be allowed, provided that both the minimum and maximum length of the rope remains in the allowable range of 63" to 96", and that it meets the other critera?
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit a ROPE changing lengths during the MATCH provided it remains compliant with all specifications.
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3946
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Q145:
May the pilot help guide the rope into the robot?
 
A:
Please see !S07 as updated in [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate03.pdf). Per the update, PILOTS may not "contact any part of a deployed (i.e. any part of the ROPE is below the deck of the
AIRSHIP) ROPE.". Contact with a ROPE that is not "deployed" (as described above) is permitted.
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5502
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/145</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:39:18 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/143</guid><title><![CDATA[Q143 Maximum Robot Size]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q143:
Does R03 mean the Robot cannot reach over the bumpers to pickup gears from the floor or place gears on the peg?
 
A:
There are no rules that explicitly prohibit a ROBOT from reaching beyond its BUMPERS.
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5589
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/143</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:38:55 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/142</guid><title><![CDATA[Q142 Rope Retaining Feature continued from Q85 Larks Head Knot around steal ears?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q142:
Can the rope pass through the steal ears with a loop and wrap around the ears? The rope knot would look similar to a "Larks Head" Knot.
 
A:
## Second paragraph updated per [Team Update 05](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdates-combined.pdf).
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT or ROPE designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT or ROPE lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. Generally, loops which wrap around the DAVIT fingers would constitute engaging "securely with the FIELD" per !I04-E provided that the ROPE still passes between the fingers (secured by the pin) to ensure that it does not slip off the fingers.
Please note that placing any knot used to form loops, as described above, **that extends more than 2 in.** below the DAVIT fingers ~~would~~ violate**s** I04-F.
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3244
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/142</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:38:16 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/140</guid><title><![CDATA[Q140 Purposely fraying the end of the rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q140:
Can we purposely fray the end of our rope, but have a knot further up to prevent the fray from spreading? like this: https://goo.gl/OSdhp6
 
A:
We believe the answer to !Q137 answers your question. If not, please rephrase and resubmit.
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2550
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Q139:
My team intends to sew loop-type velcro to the sides of our 1 inch non-metalic strap. Would this be considered a legal modification to the rope? Also, for attaching our rope to the airship, we would like to use a metal piece or bar instead of a knot. Does the mechanism for attaching the rope to the airship have to be made of the same material as the rope?
 
A:
!I04-D has been modified in [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate02.pdf) to add sewing as an allowable method of fiber attachment for a legal ROPE.
Per !I04-D, the entire ROPE must be made of 'non-metallic fibers', you may not add metal to the ROPE for any reason.
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2667
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/139</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:37:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/138</guid><title><![CDATA[Q138 Knots coming undone]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q138:
Consider a rope of legal length with a knot. If, during a match, a knot in the rope comes undone such that, if the rope were remeasured, the rope would be longer than 8 ft., would this be a violation of Rule I04c.
 
A:
Teams should take reasonable steps to ensure knots (or any other portion of their ROPE) does not come undone during a MATCH. That being said, if a knot were to accidentally come undone, it would not violate !I04, but would need to be repaired to a legal state (including re-inspection if required) before being used in a future MATCH. Keep in mind that !T03 prohibits a knot from coming undone on purpose, or strategically.
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3322
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Q137:
If the end of an otherwise legal rope becomes frayed, is it still a legal rope?
 
A:
There is no rule that prohibits a ROPE from being frayed, either intentionally or accidentally. If the fraying (accidental or deliberate) occurs after the ROPE has passed Inspection and it's extensive enough that it could be considered a modification to the ROPE, it must be reInspected per !I06.
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3322
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/137</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:36:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/225</guid><title><![CDATA[Q225 Depressing the Bottom plate of the TOUCHPAD.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q225:
Do all 3 of the TOUCHPAD plungers need to be depressed to start the counter or will depressing only 1 of the plungers start the counter to be READY FOR FLIGHT?
 
A:
The TOUCHPAD is designed such that only the movement of the TOUCHPAD plate should be of consequence to its operation by a ROBOT - displacement of the TOUCHPAD plate by 1/2 inches on any part of the plate will activate the TOUCHPAD.
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2848
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/225</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:54:52 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/222</guid><title><![CDATA[Q222 Driver station has no robot communications]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q222:
We have a rookie configuration. We flashed/updated all the hardware. Everything on the robot looks OK based on the status lights of the devices. When we run the Driver Station application however, we get NO ROBOT COMMUNICATIONS. The Robot Radio button is green, we can ping the robot via USB and Ethernet cable. We are trying to run tethered. We have downloaded basic code generated via Robot Builder. What is missing??
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. For technical assistance, please visit the [FIRST Forums](http://forums.usfirst.org/forumdisplay.php?23-FIRST-Robotics-Competition).
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3851
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Q216:
How will inspectors measure robots for compliance to the dimensions of R03? Measuring pool noodle stuffed fabric covers will be very subjective.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS, not discuss the processes or procedures that will be used at events. If you have a specific concern or comment, please direct it to [FRC Teams](mailto:frcteams@firstinspires.org)
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3546
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/216</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:48:19 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/211</guid><title><![CDATA[Q211 Minimum required amount of rotors/steam pressure?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q211:
My team would like to know if there is a minimum amount of steam pressure or rotors turning required for "liftoff." It seemed implied in one of the introductory videos, but there is no mention of a minimum amount in the manual.
 
A:
The concept of "liftoff" (which is mentioned in the Game Animation) is used purely for the story of a _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS MATCH. There is no official definition for "liftoff", and the concept of "liftoff" is not material to game play.
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2840
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/211</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:46:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/200</guid><title><![CDATA[Q200 Attaching Velcro onto our rope further 4 inches from the end of the rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q200:
Can we sew Velcro 5 inches from the end of the rope?. Is the end of the rope the ground end or the human player station end?
 
A:
Non-adhesive backed hook and loop fastener, which also meets all other requirements of !I04, may be sewn 5 inches from the end of a ROPE. Please see !I04, as well as [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate03.pdf). !I04 also defines what is meant by 'end' of a ROPE.
 (Asked by

5087
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/200</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/221</guid><title><![CDATA[Q221 Can bumper numbers look different on different sides?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q221:
Due to the potential for smaller bumpers on certain sides, is it legal for the bumper numbers on a side of the robot to look slightly different than the numbers on another side? For instance, a six inch side would have the numbers more compressed than on a 20 inch long bumper that would have them be less compressed? All numbers would still meet the criteria specified in R27.
 
A:
There are no rules requiring all BUMPER numbers to look identical.
 (Asked by

1111
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/221</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:12:36 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/218</guid><title><![CDATA[Q218 Action camera on pilot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q218:
Assuming wireless is disabled and it is securely attached to the pilot in the airship, would it be legal for the pilot to wear an action camera such as a GoPro or other brand on their body during the match?
 
A:
We won't answer questions about a specific item's legality. If the item isn't listed in !H12, it's not allowed in the ARENA.
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1111
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/218</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:12:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/217</guid><title><![CDATA[Q217 For the purposes of R29 A, is OSB considered chipboard?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q217:
For the purposes of R29 A, is OSB considered chipboard?
 
A:
While OSB is a different material than chipboard, !R29-A only permits plywood or solid wood (not OSB).
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348
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/217</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:11:47 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/215</guid><title><![CDATA[Q215 Velcro in Robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q215:
Are we able to place velcro in our robot for use in climbing our own rope?
 
A:
There are no rules that explicitly prohibit hook-and-loop tape as part of the ROBOT, provided all other ROBOT rules are met.
 (Asked by

6451
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/215</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:11:27 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/214</guid><title><![CDATA[Q214 Outer field dimensions]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q214:
Can you please supply the outer field dimensions/angles especially for the corner areas?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
 (Asked by

1741
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/214</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:11:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/213</guid><title><![CDATA[Q213 Bumpers and frame exposure]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q213:
If the robot bumpers are at a height of 7 inches (top of bumper) and the majority of the frame is above this height will it pass inspection?
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. Please review Section 8.5, especially the images and detail of !R22 as well as !R23. If you have a specific question about a rule, please resubmit.
 (Asked by

263
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/213</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:10:52 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/202</guid><title><![CDATA[Q202 G 15 Game Piece Marking]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q202:
Rule G15 states in the blue box "Game pieces are expected to undergo a reasonable amount of wear and tear as they are handled by ROBOTS, such as scratching or marking. Gouging, tearing off pieces, or routinely marking Game pieces are violations ......."
Line one states that scratching and marking are expected. Line 2 states routinely marking is a violation. Can a differentiate the difference between marking and routinely marking?
 
A:
A MECHANISM or COMPONENT that, for example, is designed to grasp GEARS so tightly that it crushes or marks them or isn't designed to do that, but does "routine marks" or "routinely damages" GAME PIECES. However, its possible (and expected) that from time to time a GAME PIECE is marked inadvertently through typical game play, which does not violate !G15.
Keep in mind that we cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE.
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2495
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/202</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:10:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/180</guid><title><![CDATA[Q180 Active Placement of Gears]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q180:
By using an active gear "kicker" such as a linear actuator would the robot break G23?
As long as the actuator is in continual contact with the gear before fully supported by the lift the robot would not break G23.
Or would this be considered launching, violating G23?
 
A:
We believe you mean !G24. In which case, as long as the ROBOT is in contact with the GEAR, it has not LAUNCHED the GEAR.
 (Asked by

4618
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/180</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:09:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/158</guid><title><![CDATA[Q158 Use of davit pin to hold rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q158:
The part GE-17081-05 has a 0.27 hole for a removable pin which keeps the knot from sliding off the davit. The pin is seen in the airship field tour video. Instead of a knot, can a rope have a loop which wraps around the pin? This would be similar but different than what is asked in question 142.
 
A:
The DAVIT's retaining pins are not designed to hold the weight of a ROBOT and therefore attachment to them would not be considered engaging "securely with the FIELD" per !I04-D.
 (Asked by

58
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/158</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:08:48 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/151</guid><title><![CDATA[Q151 Shifting Between Volume Costraints]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q151:
Are robots allowed to change which orientation of volume constraints it follows during a match? i/e, can the 30x32x36 volume be rotated around the robot to allow an extending arm sideways then rotated to allow an extending arm up? As long as the volume is never broken by both at once, can the orientation be switched?
(prompted by question 28)
 
A:
No, the "tall" dimension specified in !R03 and !G04 is always measured vertically from the floor. If the ROBOT is at an angle (such as may happen when climbing), the measurement is made as if the ROBOT were virtually transposed onto the flat floor.
 (Asked by

3006
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/151</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:07:58 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/144</guid><title><![CDATA[Q144 Using Laser for robot setup on the field.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q144:
Can a laser that is attached to the robot be used to align the robot for autonomous? It would be turned on while setting up the robot on the field before the match begins. The laser would be a permanent part of the robot.
 
A:
Per !R07-D the laser must be Class I in order to be permissible on a ROBOT. Please also be aware of !G02 and !R37.
 (Asked by

4216
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/144</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:07:36 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/136</guid><title><![CDATA[Q136 Must the ends of BUMPER greater than 6 inches have square-cut noodles?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q136:
If a given BUMPER extends 7 inches to satisfy the 6 inch covering requirement, can the last 1 inch of bumper noodle be cut diagonally such that it forms a funnel?
 
A:
No, this would be a deviation from the vertical cross section depicted in Figure 8-5 and would not meet !R29-C.
 (Asked by

5817
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/136</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:04:28 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/135</guid><title><![CDATA[Q135 Knots in the Rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q135:
Can you please provide a formal definition of a knot?
 
A:
There is no *FIRST* Robotics Competition specific definition of knot, so a more colloquial version from Merriam-Webster.com will have to do: an interlacement of the parts of one or more flexible bodies forming a lump or knob (as for fastening or tying together).
 (Asked by

3200
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/135</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/132</guid><title><![CDATA[Q132 Length of usable rope from scoring plate to end? Or How high off the ground is the rope?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q132:
We know the rope must be 5'3" to 8' ( Rule: I04 and Team Update 2) from the retaining knot to the end. So the question is what is the distance from the davit retaining feature to the point the robot scores the climb (touchpad). I assume less than 29" since no knots can be in this zone. I haven't been able deduct the range the end of the rope can be presented for the robot to gather into the climb subsystem. Another way to ask: How high and how low to the ground must the rope hang?
 
A:
There's no explicit spec for the range of distances between the lower end of the ROPE and the TOUCHPAD, however implicit dimensions can be derived from [drawings](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017FieldComponents.pdf).
 (Asked by

3244
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/132</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:03:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/120</guid><title><![CDATA[Q120 Robot Opening]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q120:
Our team is proposing a chassis that has a frame that is 40”x36”. If we had 9” of bumper from each corner, could we have an opening across our robot on the 40” side that is 22” across to pick up fuel? Our team could not find any rules in the manual that say we cannot.
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs and bless them as legal (the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event), there's no rule that prohibits opening in BUMPERS. Please see !R31 for details and examples regarding openings in the FRAME PERIMETER.
 (Asked by

2439
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/120</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:03:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/87</guid><title><![CDATA[Q87 Non-Steamacrit involvement in the game?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q87:
Why is the only listing of Stemacrit in the glossary?
 
A:
The inclusion of STEAMACRIT in the Glossary is a joke by the manual authors. It can also be used as a helpful tool to see if your team members are reading the manual closely! The word and definition have no direct correlation to *FIRST* Steamworks gameplay.
 (Asked by

1915
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/87</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:02:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/130</guid><title><![CDATA[Q130 Playoff Bumper Colors]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q130:
Can you please elaborate on the bumper colors of playoff alliances as they will be assigned during playoff tournaments. For the quarterfinals is the higher seeded alliance always Red? As we progress in rounds is the top of the bracket (figure 10-3) always Red or is it based on your initial seed? During the "FIRST Championship Playoffs " which division will be Red and which division will be Blue for each match of the round robins?
Thank You,
Spectrum FRC#3847
 
A:
For Quarterfinal MATCHES, the higher seeded ALLIANCE will be in Red BUMPERS. Beyond the Quarterfinal MATCHES, the alliance on the top of each MATCH in Figure 10-2 will be in Red BUMPERS, regardless of whether they are the higher seeded ALLIANCE in that particular MATCH.
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3847
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/130</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:09:13 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/210</guid><title><![CDATA[Q210 Shooting from within the Key]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q210:
Is a robot allowed to shoot fuel into the High Efficiency Goal while it is sitting within its own key?
 
A:
Yes, the KEY is within the LAUNCHPAD so there are no rules prohibiting a ROBOT from LAUNCHING FUEL into the High Efficiency GOAL of its BOILER from its own KEY.
 (Asked by

5348
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/210</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:43:22 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/204</guid><title><![CDATA[Q204 Rope & Secondarty Materials]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q204:
On YouTube (https://youtu.be/UIMjzOVA_dg), one can see a “three day robot” demonstrating a climb using a strap that had Velcro attached to it. The rope/strap tail has the (a) hook or (b) loop material side while the robot has a rotating reel with the corresponding opposite (a) loop or (b) hook Velcro material. Is it allowable to add this Velcro or any secondary material to the rope or “strap”?
 
A:
We believe your question is answered by some combination of !Q10, !Q22, !Q6, and !Q45. If it is not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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175
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/204</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:43:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/203</guid><title><![CDATA[Q203 Fuel manipulation outside of the robot.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q203:
According to g28 robots cannot manipulate fuel outside of their frame. Does a leaf blower as a shooter for the high goal violate g28?
 
A:
We believe !Q17 and/or !Q19 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
 (Asked by

753
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/203</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:42:54 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/80</guid><title><![CDATA[Q80 Bumpers and Volume]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q80:
Do the bumpers have to be within the volume defined in the game manual. In previous years the bumpers were not included in the volume.
 
A:
We believe !Q77 and [Team Update 1](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate01.pdf) both answer your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
Please also review section 1.5: "Please avoid interpreting the text based on assumptions about intent, implementation of past rules [...]"
 (Asked by

4573
 at Jan 18th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/80</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 13:41:39 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/208</guid><title><![CDATA[Q208 Are ferrules allowed on robot wiring?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q208:
We would like to add ferrules to some of the wiring used on the robot. We believe this would improve durability and reliability for the contacts into components such as the PDP.
 
A:
Ferrules are a "COTS connector" permitted per !R58.
 (Asked by

1592
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/208</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:40:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/206</guid><title><![CDATA[Q206 Split numbers on bumpers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q206:
We are a 4 number team planning to have 6in bumpers on the front left and right of robot. Can we put half of our team number on one side and second half on other side. For example: 12 34.
 
A:
Please read the blue box under !R27, which explicitly allows this.
 (Asked by

2960
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/206</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/192</guid><title><![CDATA[Q192 Matthew Walker's knot (follow up to Q57 : "splice = knot?")]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q192:
Some knots involve unlaying the strands of a rope and knotting the individual strands together. Examples include the Matthew Walker's knot, the manrope knot, and the footrope knot. Would these knots be considered knots or part of the ROPE?
 
A:
Such a knot would be considered to be fibers "tied" together per !I04-D and subject to the 1 in. maximum diameter per !I04-A
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2903
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/192</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:32:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/186</guid><title><![CDATA[Q186 Robot perimeter]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q186:
In previous years the bumpers were not included in the robot perimeter. Why was this rule changed? For reference R03.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS, not to question why a rule exists. If you have feedback about a particular rule or procedure, please contact [FRC Team Support](mailto:frcteams@firstinspires.org)
 (Asked by

2148
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/186</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:26:05 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/182</guid><title><![CDATA[Q182 R13 - COTS motor may used fabricated materials to secure from pre-build season???]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q182:
R13- states OK to use...
D. FABRICATED ITEMS consisting of one COTS electrical device (e.g. a motor or motor controller), and any materials used to secure and insulate those connectors
ARE ALLOWED???
Therefore a past robot bracket is made for the COTS motor & Tough Gearbox, this CAN be used to Secure the motor since its part of the any materials...Is this understanding correct in the part is under $400US. Or must this bracket be remade for the season???Wheel mount bracket to frame.
 
A:
No, a FABRICATED ITEM (such as a bracket) used to mount a motor to another part is not used to secure or insulate the connectors and therefore would not meet the !R13-D exemption.
 (Asked by

6330
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/182</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:23:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/181</guid><title><![CDATA[Q181 Wheel Assembly]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q181:
Does the wheel have two part and have to be assembled with screws?
 
A:
We assume you mean GEAR, in which case we believe !Q76 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
 (Asked by

3163
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/181</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:21:32 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/179</guid><title><![CDATA[Q179 Drive Team Field Limit]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q179:
How many drive team members are allowed on the field to retrieve and position the robot in between matches?
 
A:
There is no limit to the number of DRIVE TEAM members that may assist in position/retrieval of the ROBOT. However, please keep in mind that there is a number of tasks that must be completed (such as setup of the OPERATOR CONSOLE) and all tasks must be completed in a reasonable amount of time (per !G02).
 (Asked by

4330
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/179</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:20:02 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/169</guid><title><![CDATA[Q169 Davit extension through the TouchPad?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q169:
Does the Davit extend through the TouchPad such that a robot might contact it while depressing the TouchPad? If so, can you provide a picture of the lower portion of the TouchPad showing the portion of the Davit that is exposed when the TouchPad is fully depressed? How much of the lower portion of the Davit is exposed when the TouchPad is fully depressed?
 
A:
The DAVIT extends through the entire height of the TOUCHPAD, and is flush to the bottom of the 10 in. polycarbonate plate of the TOUCHPAD. When the TOUCHPAD plate is displaced by a ROBOT, an equal amount of the DAVIT is exposed (assuming the pressure around the plate is uniform allowing the plate to remain horizontal) through the inner portion of the TOUCHPAD plate's rectangular cutout.
 (Asked by

3847
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/169</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:16:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/167</guid><title><![CDATA[Q167 Team supplied rope sticking to hook and loop retaining strap.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q167:
If a team uses a fuzzy rope that passes inspection, what would happen should the rope stick to the hook and loop retaining strap on deployment? Would the pilot be allowed to manually disengage the team rope from the airship hook and loop retaining strap or would this be a violation of S07? Assuming the pilot disengaging a rope stuck to the hook and loop retaining strap will be a violation of S07; will the airship hook and loop retaining strap be modified to prevent ropes from sticking to it?
 
A:
!S07 has been updated in [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate03.pdf) to add clarity regarding unacceptable contact with ROPES.
As long as the PILOT does not contact the DAVIT or the ROPE after it is deployed (below the deck of the AIRSHIP) !S07 would not be violated. That being said, we highly recommend you ensure your ROPE is designed/created in such a way as to prevent sticking to the release mechanism (thus lowering the odds of accidentally violating !S07 or other rules)
 (Asked by

364
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/167</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:13:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/165</guid><title><![CDATA[Q165 What is source/specification for Return Loading Station FRP Board?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q165:
Can you please give a source or more detailed specification for the .08" FRP board called out in the Team Version Field Drawings at the return Loading Station? (page 36 of 37). The .09" FRP material available at Home Depot has a bumpy side and a smooth side. Is this material comparable? If not, where can we find it? If yes, which side goes up - bumpy or smooth? Home depot FRP link http://www.homedepot.com/p/4-ft-x-8-ft-White-090-FRP-Wall-Board-MFTF12IXA480009600/100389836.
 
A:
Good point, our apologies for the omission. The [Team Versions](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017TeamVersions.pdf) drawing package has been updated to specify that the textured side faces upwards.
 (Asked by

4910
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/165</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:12:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/133</guid><title><![CDATA[Q133 Peg (spring) Discrepancies]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q133:
According to the game manual in sec. 3.5 it says the peg is 1.1" from the carpet which is 13"; however, the scematics say 13 1/4" - Also the game manual says the peg is 1 3/8" wide, but the scematic drawings show 1.2 in - do these differences matter and if so which is it?
 
A:
Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
Dimensions in the Game Manual are nominal.
 (Asked by

4265
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/133</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:51:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/119</guid><title><![CDATA[Q119 HP Loading Station chute material]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q119:
Please provide more information on the HDPE used for the floor of the chute. We want to get material that exactly matches the chute slide for friction.
 
A:
In looking for the answer to your question, we noticed that the drawing for the chute (GE-17362) was missing from the [Field Components](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017FieldComponents.pdf) drawing package. We have updated the drawing packaged to include this drawing which contains additional detail on the texture of HDPE used on the part ("orange peel"). Sorry for the omission!
 (Asked by

1523
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/119</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:28:18 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/117</guid><title><![CDATA[Q117 Costing of an item partially obtained with a PDV?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q117:
In the event that a VENDOR has supplied a PDV (thus items via that PDV are a KOP item), however the COTS items purchased cost more than the value of the PDV (the PDV was used to offset the cost), does that item now become a KOP item, particularly for the purposes of R10 and R11? Say that the PDV was $40, but an item cost $100. Is the cost not reported per R10 since this is now a KOP item? Another example: the cost is $1000. Is this legal per R11 since it is now a KOP item?
 
A:
Apologies for the confusion! We have updated the language in Section 8.1 in [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate02.pdf) to more clearly specify that for an item to be considered part of the KOP it must be "paid for completely, except shipping, with a Product Donation Voucher (PDV)."
 (Asked by

4263
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/117</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:27:36 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/97</guid><title><![CDATA[Q97 What material is the loading station ramp made out of?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q97:
The manual indicates that the ramp is a fiberglass reinforced plastic. This is very vague and makes it hard for our team to figure out how exactly the gear will slide off of the ramp. What is the coefficient of friction between the gear and the ramp and what is the exact material it is made of?
 
A:
The Game Manual and [Field Components](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017FieldComponents.pdf) drawing package specify the LOADING STATION chute surface as HDPE, not fiberglass reinforced plastic. The drawing package has been updated as of [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate03.pdf) to provide additional detail on the exact HDPE surface texture used.
The [Team Versions](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Drawings/2017TeamVersions.pdf) drawing package specifies fiberglass reinforced plastic as a more commonly available material with similar texture to the field component. This drawing package has also been updated as of [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate03.pdf) to specify which side of the FRP should face up.
 (Asked by

2605
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/97</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:27:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/205</guid><title><![CDATA[Q205 Spilling Balls from Hoppers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q205:
Would it be against any rule to deliberately spill all the balls from the hoppers without collecting any as a defensive measure?
 
A:
No, this does not violate a rule.
 (Asked by

6070
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/205</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/201</guid><title><![CDATA[Q201 position of vision targets for lift peg]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q201:
Peg vision target Rule 3.14 p 37.
The text gives the height and the distance between them, but is silent on where they are placed in the third dimension.
On page 37, the targets appear to be floating in empty space.
On page 19 and 24 they appear to be supported by the clear Plastic Airship Base panel, GE-17075, 1/4" thick.
Can you confirm that the vision targets are mounted to the outside surface of the sheet of clear plastic?
The 'Z' axis? Or the front to back distance from the base of the peg
 
A:
Yes, the Vision Tape is attached to the Plastic Airship Base panel, GE-17085.
 (Asked by

423
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/201</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:25:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/188</guid><title><![CDATA[Q188 Discrepancy in Ranking Score?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q188:
In 10.4.3 Ranking Score is defined as:
Ranking Points earned...divided by the number of MATCHES they’ve been scheduled to play... is their Ranking Score (RS).
Glossary Ranking Score defined as:
RS Ranking Score, the total number of Ranking Points earned by a Team throughout their Qualification
Which is correct? 10.4.3 divided by matches or Glossary just total ranking points
Scheduled 10 matches, but only play 9 due to event time constraints, still divided by 10?
Why divide by matches?
 
A:
Good catch! The Glossary is updated per [Team Update 03](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate03.pdf) to reflect the information contained within Section 10.4.3. The Ranking Score (RS) is the total number of Ranking Points earned divided by the number of MATCHES the Team has been scheduled to play (after considering the exceptions, et. al.).
 (Asked by

399
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/188</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/185</guid><title><![CDATA[Q185 Human Players and their positions]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q185:
So, there are three human elements per alliance. There can be two in the airship and one in the loading lane or one in the airship, one in the loading lane, and one behind the alliance wall, correct? Well, if there is no human element behind the alliance wall with the overflow bin--like if there were two human elements in the airship, who would be in charge of the overflow bin? Would the opponent human element in the loading lane be able to take the overflow bin or would it just sit there?
 
A:
There are no prescribed minimum quantities for HUMAN PLAYERS or DRIVERS of a particular Team/ALLIANCE. There are maximums, as defined in 4.5, both in quantity and location. It is up to the ALLIANCE to determine the way in which they will distribute their HUMAN PLAYERS. However, an opponent will never "take over" for any position left "unattended" (i.e. the Red ALLIANCE cannot "take over" the Blue ALLIANCE LOADING LANE if Blue elects not to place any HUMAN PLAYERS there)
 (Asked by

3581
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/185</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:21:58 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/160</guid><title><![CDATA[Q160 Lifting gear from Robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q160:
Is it legal for the human player to start pulling up the lift while the gear is still in contact with both the lift and the robot?
 
A:
We believe !Q1 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
 (Asked by

5666
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/160</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:14:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/131</guid><title><![CDATA[Q131 Loading station surface gear friction]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q131:
We have built a loading station with the correct angle and a smooth polycarbonate surface. The gear will not slide down the surface on it's own. Is there going to be anything done to remedy the friction problem?
 
A:
GEARS slide easily down the chute, which is not made of polycarbonate. For reference, please refer to the [Loading Lane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYX5dRa_uYk&index=8&list=PLZT9pIgNOV6bL3rQJQ06LdulQOTBCJv9t) field tour video. Meanwhile, the drawing package has been updated to include the chute drawing with material specification.
 (Asked by

3545
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/131</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:13:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/115</guid><title><![CDATA[Q115 Does Table 10-2 apply after 1 Overtime MATCH, or after 3?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q115:
Section 10.5's last sentence says "In the case where the Overtime MATCH scores for both ALLIANCES are equal, the win for that Overtime MATCH is awarded based on the criteria listed in Table 10-2." Does Table 10-2 apply after the first Overtime MATCH, or the third (which we'll never see because Table 10-2 all but ensures a winner)? If all 3 available Overtime MATCHes reach the 6th Sort Order (MATCH is replayed), what happens?
(PS: All us Einstein 2016 spectators thank you for Overtime!)
 
A:
It is not possible for an Overtime MATCH to end in a tie. If the MATCH Points are equal for the ALLIANCES in an Overtime MATCH, Table 10-2 is invoked, including, if necessary, replaying the MATCH per sort order 6. MATCH replays take the place of the original match, they do not count as an additional MATCH (e.g. replaying Overtime MATCH 1 does not make it Overtime MATCH 2).
Your second question does not apply, as it is not possible for three (3) Overtime MATCHES to be played without an ALLIANCE winning two (2) MATCHES.
The provision for up to three (3) Overtime MATCHES is necessary in the event that the first Overtime MATCH is reached without either ALLIANCE having won a MATCH.
 (Asked by

5402
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/115</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:12:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/53</guid><title><![CDATA[Q53 Rope Material]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q53:
Can teams use Velcro in their own customized ropes?
 
A:
We believe !Q45, !Q21, and !Q6 are similar enough to your question that they answer it. If not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
 (Asked by

4099
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/53</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:11:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/32</guid><title><![CDATA[Q32 Must Bumper Mounting Hardware be inside the Bumper Zone?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q32:
Can bumper mounting hardware extend vertically outside of the Bumper Zone? In other words, can bumper mounting hardware disregard R23 while complying with R28 and remaining exempt under R21.C?
 
A:
All mounting hardware that is part of the BUMPER (that which is part of the BUMPER assembly and removable fasteners as described in !R29, part G) must remain within the BUMPER ZONE.
 (Asked by

619
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/32</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:11:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/193</guid><title><![CDATA[Q193 Block by Opposition the Lift - Alliance Response Pilot lifts - lift breaks-who penalized]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q193:
Is blocking the oppositions lift and lift then breaks when Pilot lifts, a penalty for the Pilot - you should not have pulled, or for Blocking Opposition, and the Pilot responded by a strategy to counter the blocking move-creating penalty for opposition? Similarly can an alliance push the opposition away from its own lift or is their a clearing zone like the Key??? Otherwise how can alliance ever score gears around a stopped robot? By drawing penalties only???
 
A:
Please see !Q30 regarding blocking LIFTS and FIELD damage.
There is no rule prohibiting an ALLIANCE from pushing the opposition away from their LIFT.
Note that an ALLIANCE has 3 LIFTS and completely blocking all of them using a coordinated effort of two or more ROBOTS would be a violation of !G10.
 (Asked by

6330
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/193</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 01:02:32 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/197</guid><title><![CDATA[Q197 Bumpers vs. Robot Structure]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q197:
Are we able to build the robots frame over the top of the bumpers, if we do not exceed the volumes specified in the rule book?
 
A:
If by "frame" you mean a permanent non-articulating component of your ROBOT, no, per !R02, your ROBOT must be inside the vertical projection of the FRAME PERIMETER in it's STARTING CONFIGURATION.
If you are using "frame" to refer to any part of the ROBOT, please see !Q4 regarding extension of the BUMPERS.
 (Asked by

3242
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/197</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 01:01:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/198</guid><title><![CDATA[Q198 Reserve Gear]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q198:
Can the reserve gear in the airship be used to start a rotor?
 
A:
Yes, the only restriction specific to the reserve GEAR is !A05. After AUTO, the reserve GEAR is no different than any other GEAR.
 (Asked by

3242
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/198</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:58:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/196</guid><title><![CDATA[Q196 Rotation of the Rotors]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q196:
Does it matter which way you turn the rotor when attempting to get it going? Either clockwise or counter-clockwise?
 
A:
No, there is no specified direction that the GEAR chain must be rotated in order to start the ROTOR.
 (Asked by

5550
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/196</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:57:54 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/195</guid><title><![CDATA[Q195 G20 - Opposition touches Alliance rope in last 30 seconds - triggered pad counts...]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q195:
Scenario - opposition blocks rope, so Alliance as counter strategy pushes opposition into rope.
Is this scored as a triggered pad for the Alliance since the Opposition touched the rope, the opposition is not pinned, and the opposition is obstructing the natural path of the Alliance wanting to go for the rope??? Suggesting that gear ratios of strength just as valuable as speed ratios.
Otherwise Opposition robots that can't climb would simply block Alliance...
 
A:
We cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE.
Per the Blue Box below !C08, "C08 does not apply for strategies consistent with standard gameplay." If a ROBOT is attempting to get to it's ROPE in order to climb, that would likely be considered standard gameplay. If a ROBOT goes out of it's way to corral an opponent in order to push them into a ROPE, that would likely not be "standard gameplay" and may be considered a violation of !C08.
 (Asked by

6330
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/195</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:56:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/194</guid><title><![CDATA[Q194 Reflective Tape on the Ropes]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q194:
Are we allowed to place reflective tape in the ropes that we bring to the games?
 
A:
Please see !Q134 regarding legality of retro-reflective material in ROPES. Because the word "tape" is suggestive of adhesive backing, we will caution you that adhesive does not consist of "flexible, non-metallic fibers".
 (Asked by

3242
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/194</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:55:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/189</guid><title><![CDATA[Q189 Method of Knot Measurement?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q189:
For the purposes of I04-F how will the distance between the retaining feature and the top knot be measured? Between centers of knot masses lengths of straight rope segments between knot edges, or some other method?
 
A:
The measurement for !I04-F should be between the nearest edges of the knots (similar, but not identical to "lengths of straight rope segments between knot edges").
 (Asked by

5012
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/189</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:54:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/178</guid><title><![CDATA[Q178 Area of the robot?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q178:
If the robot is smaller than the area. Can we extend an arm to fill in the rest of the area?
 
A:
We believe !Q4 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
 (Asked by

3163
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/178</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:48:27 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/177</guid><title><![CDATA[Q177 Assignment of rope to teams]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q177:
Will be be assigned a rope station based on our placement in the player station or is that up to each alliance to determine?
 
A:
Section 4.2 does not prescribe specific DAVITS for Teams in given PLAYER STATIONS, it is up for each ALLIANCE to decide. If there are unresolvable conflicts, as per Section 4.2, ROPE locations will be determined in order by PLAYER STATION number.
 (Asked by

5215
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/177</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:47:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/172</guid><title><![CDATA[Q172 Rope end position]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q172:
Does the rope hang just above the floor as pictured in the manual or drape on the floor because of the length specified in the manual.
 
A:
We believe you're asking about the default FIELD ROPES. In which case, the specifications are outlined in 3.8 as 7 ft 2 in (~218 cm) and therefore does make contact with the floor.
 (Asked by

4573
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/172</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:45:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/163</guid><title><![CDATA[Q163 Removal of robot at end of match when suspended from davit]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q163:
Can the team pull out the release pins and remove the robot with the rope still attached to climbing mechanism at the end of the match? This would save time at the end of the match but would require team members holding the robot while the pin is removed.
 
A:
If you're asking about a Team supplied ROPE, we believe !Q108 answers your question. If your ROBOT has climbed a FIELD ROPE, however, !G06 and !R08 apply.
 (Asked by

2084
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/163</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:40:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/121</guid><title><![CDATA[Q121 Gear Capture]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q121:
If there is a gear in our robot’s gear collection mechanism, and the gear is secured to the peg on the airship, could a pilot pull on the rope to disconnect the gear from our robot?
 
A:
We believe !Q1 answers your question. If not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
 (Asked by

2439
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/121</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:36:33 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/100</guid><title><![CDATA[Q100 Multiple Gears on a Peg]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q100:
As per G27, robots may not control more than one gear at a time. Going by the blue box under this rule, that includes "trapping" a gear against a field element. If a robot were to put a second gear on the peg, resulting in the first gear being pushed against the airship, would this count as the robot controlling both gears and result in a violation of G27 and give the alliance a penalty?
 
A:
We appreciate your close and analytical reading of the rule. While there are elements and context to a hypothetical scenario we can't possibly consider, the description of "trapping" per the blue box in G27 includes intent to hold a GEAR in place to shield or guard it. If, in the judgement of the REFEREE, the GEAR is now trapped as a result of a Team trying to deliver multiple GEARS simultaneously, a FOUL is unlikely. On the other hand, if, in the judgement of the REFEREE, the ROBOT is attempting to trap a GEAR on a peg while also controlling another GEAR, for some other reason like shielding it from an opponent's reach, a FOUL is warranted.
 (Asked by

4006
 at Jan 17th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/100</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 00:34:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/128</guid><title><![CDATA[Q128 Pre-Match Fuel Counting]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q128:
4.6 Logistics: "There will not be an ARENA FAULT called for MATCHES that accidentally begin with an incorrect number
of GAME PIECES...". Would a team be allowed to count the number of balls placed in a specific hopper before the start of a match to be sure there are 50? Are the balls placed in the hoppers going to be counted by the field staff before the match, or is a standardized alternative method of filling the hoppers based upon volume going to be implemented? Finally: Whole, 2%, or Skim?
 
A:
Although there's no rule prohibiting Teams from counting FUEL before a MATCH, consider !G02. FIELD STAFF are expected to make sure GAME PIECES are staged as defined, and if a Team has removed FUEL from an already setup HOPPER, FIELD reset will likely have to recheck to make sure that HOPPER is compliant (thus a very likely violation of !G02).
 (Asked by

3314
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/128</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:11:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/176</guid><title><![CDATA[Q176 Hook and loop fasteners]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q176:
Can hook and loop fasteners be considered as a rope?
 
A:
We believe !Q45 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before posing a new question.
 (Asked by

2070
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/176</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:34:14 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/175</guid><title><![CDATA[Q175 Inspection Policy If Rope Is Untied Then Retied Identically]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q175:
If the actions of a ROBOT result in a knot in a ROPE being untied, and the rope is then retied in the same way it originally was, would that rope have to be reinspected?
 
A:
If the ROPE were re-tied in an identical manner, it would not need to be re-inspected. If there were any change in knot location, materials, etc, it would require a new inspection.
 (Asked by

639
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/175</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:33:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/168</guid><title><![CDATA[Q168 Tools on The Field]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q168:
At the end of the match can a wrench be brought on to the field to remove the robot from the rope?
 
A:
Bringing a wrench or other non-powered hand tool onto the FIELD at the end of a MATCH is permitted, provided that the process of removal does not violate !G02.
 (Asked by

5348
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/168</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:32:14 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/161</guid><title><![CDATA[Q161 Sharing mechanisms with alliance members]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q161:
If a team has a simple and functional gear handler with a quick bolt on design, could they build two with the idea to share one with alliance members who may be without, or without a functional one? If so:would the second rig count against the 30lbs spare parts amount? Also the alliance robot would need to be reinspected after the rig was bolted on.even if the rig was 'approved' previously. right?
 
A:
As per !R21, any FABRICATED ITEMS brought into an event in addition to bagged items must be accounted for in the Team's WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE. Also per !R21, Teams are allowed, with the consent of both parties, to share FABRICATED ITEMS from their WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE for repairs and upgrades. Finally, please see !I05 to determine if a ROBOT needs to be reinspected after a modification.
 (Asked by

4064
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/161</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:31:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/159</guid><title><![CDATA[Q159 Dropping Rope on a Robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q159:
Is it legal to drive your robot under the rope and drop your rope on top of your robot?
 
A:
Provided all rules are followed (e.g. !H11), PILOTS may deploy a ROPE by releasing the ROPE'S retention strap (per Section 3.8) regardless of where the ROBOT is.
 (Asked by

5666
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/159</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/150</guid><title><![CDATA[Q150 string test perimeter on inspection?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q150:
what will be the length of the string during robot inspection when checking the perimeter?
 
A:
There is no prescribed FRAME PERIMETER length in *FIRST* Steamworks. Any string used to aid in determining FRAME PERIMETER at inspection will be long enough to assess the maximum possible FRAME PERIMETER length that fits in the volume(s) specified in !R03.
 (Asked by

4042
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/150</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:26:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/171</guid><title><![CDATA[Q171 Is there a vertical height to the player station this year?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q171:
Is there a vertical height to the player station this year? What is the height limit for pole mounted cameras this year?
 
A:
We believe you're asking if there is a maximum height for the OPERATOR CONSOLE, not the PLAYER STATION. !R99 specifies the requirements for the OPERATOR CONSOLE, part C explicitly sets a vertical height limitation - this limitation, ironically enough, is the exact height of the PLAYER STATION wall.
 (Asked by

364
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/171</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:08:27 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/170</guid><title><![CDATA[Q170 Where does the unused Pre-load gears and fuel go if a alliance robot does not use them?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q170:
If an alliance decides to not pre-load a gear or fuel into a robot for the autonomous period, does the gear/fuel stay in that teams driver station? Can that gear/fuel be sent into the playing field via the overflow loading station? (Ex. Blue alliance loads 2 gears into their robots, one robot decides not to. Will that one gear stay in the blue alliances driver stations, and can that gear be loaded using the overflow loading station?)
 
A:
As per Section 4.2, any GEARS not pre-loaded onto ALLIANCE ROBOTS are transferred to the ALLIANCE'S LOADING LANE, and any FUEL not pre-loaded onto ALLIANCE ROBOTS are transferred to a RETURN BIN in the ALLIANCE'S LOADING LANE.
 (Asked by

3244
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/170</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/166</guid><title><![CDATA[Q166 Moving Gears blocking the Lift considered Herding]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q166:
If there are multiple gears blocking a robot's ability to reach the peg for the lift or the rope to climb, is it considered herding provided the bot is not carrying a gear at that time? Consider if it is not possible to move one Gear at a time (they are stacked on each other).
 
A:
Yes, just like in the answer to !Q54, the definition of control does not take into account the intent. It does not matter if you are carrying a gear or not, if the ROBOT is in control of multiple GEARS regardless of the means it is a violation of !G27.
Please note also that deliberately placing GAME PIECES in front of an opponent's LIFT (for example) could result in a violation of !G21.
 (Asked by

3604
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/166</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:05:40 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/164</guid><title><![CDATA[Q164 Inquiry regarding Rule G07]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q164:
G07 states that "ROBOTS may not contact an opposing ROBOT, regardless of who initiates the contact, if the opposing ROBOT is in contact with one of its own ALLIANCE'S ROPES". Does this rule still apply if the contact occurs before 30 seconds are left in the match? This circumstance could occur if the pilot of the opposing team released the rope before the 30 second mark.
 
A:
!G07 is not limited to a specific period of time during a MATCH.
 (Asked by

3238
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/164</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:58:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/157</guid><title><![CDATA[Q157 Moving alliance robots from assigned stations]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q157:
The answer for Q65 states that “...there is no provision to “trade” stations with other members of an ALLIANCE...” However, on page 40 & 41 the manual seems to say that if the order placement of ROBOTS or ROPES matters to either or both ALLIANCES, the ALLIANCE must notify the Head REFEREE during setup for that MATCH, and that then changes can be made with either ROBOT or ROPE placement. Please clarify.
 
A:
4.2: MATCH Setup states "If order placement of ROBOTS or ROPES matters to either or both ALLIANCES the ALLIANCE must notify the Head REFEREE during setup for that MATCH." This refers to placement of ROBOTS or ROPES on the FIELD, not Teams in particular PLAYER STATIONS (those are assigned).
 (Asked by

957
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/157</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/155</guid><title><![CDATA[Q155 Key violation up to 9.99s with only one foul]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q155:
Q102 asked if the KEY violation timer reset to zero seconds once an opponent left the KEY. However, the rule G17 states "Violation: FOUL. For every five (5) seconds in which the situation is not corrected, FOUL." This seems to imply that the first 5 seconds constitutes an initial FOUL, and an additional 5 seconds would constitute a second FOUL. Would a robot which has been flagged as violating G17 only be penalized once if they spent 9.99s in their opponent's KEY?
 
A:
Yes, a ROBOT that were only in the KEY for 9.99 seconds would only violate !G17 one time.
When a ROBOTS BUMPERS enter their opponent's KEY, REFEREES will being counting, which continues until it is clear that the ROBOT has removed their BUMPERS from the KEY. Please remember most notably that our REFEREES are human, and distinguishing between 9.99 and 10 seconds, for example, is unlikely (i.e. being in the opponent's KEY is assuming the risks associated with doing so).
 (Asked by

4276
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/155</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/154</guid><title><![CDATA[Q154 Starting configuration and game pieces]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q154:
In the starting position, may a game piece that is on the robot, fuel or gear, exceed the frame perimeter? Is the game piece that is under control of the robot considered part of the robot or can it be outside the volume perimeter?
 
A:
A GAME PIECE is never considered part of the ROBOT, before or during the MATCH. The only requirements for the ROBOT state pre-MATCH are defined in !G01 (where there is no requirement that a GAME PIECE be within the FRAME PERIMETER)
 (Asked by

2515
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/154</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:47:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/149</guid><title><![CDATA[Q149 Playing Defense (aka: Becoming a pain in the bumper for your opponent)]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q149:
Is a robot permitted to travel to the opponents side of the field and disrupt, harass and prevent the opposition from placing gears, collecting and dumping balls and shooting balls?
 
A:
While we cannot comment absolutely on all defensive scenarios, there are no rules that prohibit "travel to the opponents side of the field" or "playing defense." However there are a number of rules limiting the ways in which you can do so- if you have a specific question about one of those rules, please re-phrase and re-submit.
 (Asked by

5181
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/149</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:47:18 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/148</guid><title><![CDATA[Q148 Loops in rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q148:
Is there a prohibition from having multiple loops in a rope as long as the other rules are followed? If this is permissible, what about the diameter of the loops? The rule limits the total diameter to 10 inches. Does this mean 5 inches per loop if there are 2 loops, or can each be 10 inches?
 
A:
There is no rule that prohibits multiple loops in the same ROPE. !I04-G applies to the ROPE as a whole, not additive of each component or modification of the ROPE, thus !I04-G defines the maximum diameter of a loop.
 (Asked by

433
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/148</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:46:57 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/147</guid><title><![CDATA[Q147 Custom softwares]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q147:
Is it possible to create a custom software on the driver station computer and communicate with the robot using UDP sockets?
I've read in the FMS whitepaper that ports 5800-5810 are open for team usage, but there was nothing about using custom softwares that were created by the team.
To be specific: I'm currently working on a custom dashboard for the field team that communicates with the robot using UDP sockets on port 5800, but am unsure if the communication won't get blocked by the FMS.
Thanks!
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit team custom made dashboards from communicating with the ROBOT via the permitted ports. For technical assistance, please consult the [*FIRST* Forums](http://forums.usfirst.org/forumdisplay.php?1338-Control-System).
 (Asked by

3388
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/147</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:46:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/134</guid><title><![CDATA[Q134 Retro Reflective Rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q134:
Is retro reflective rope allowed if it consists entirely of flexible, non-metallic fibers twisted, tied, woven or braided together? Example at https://www.gmesupply.com/rr125yg-pmi-retro-reflective-12-5mm-1-2
 
A:
We will not rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT/ROPE designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT/ROPE lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. However there is no explicit rule that prohibits retro-reflective materials in ROPES.
 (Asked by

1557
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/134</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:37:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/127</guid><title><![CDATA[Q127 Legal Fans for use on a Robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q127:
In R32, it states, under Table 8-1: Motor allowances, the following: "Hard drive motors or fans that are: included in any Kickoff Kits ..... or part of a legal COTS computing device". My attention is drawn to the last portion of this statement. This implies that fans that are bought standalone (i.e. on their own) are not permitted on competition bots. Is this interpretation correct? Are computer fans that are bought standalone allowed on a competition robot?
 
A:
We believe !Q26 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
 (Asked by

5333
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/127</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:34:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/126</guid><title><![CDATA[Q126 Boiler High Goal Height (Video Wrong)]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q126:
Please confirm that the measurements given in the field tour video for the boiler regarding the high goal are incorrect. Both game manual and field part drawings show a height of 8'-1" or 97 +- 0.25. The video shows text and audio that give a height of 9' from the floor. There is also a 1/4" discrepancy on the setback.
 
A:
Good catch, you're correct the High Efficiency GOAL opening is 8 ft. 1 in. from the carpet and set back from the face of the BOILER by 1 ft. 5 1/2 in., as documented in the manual and the drawings. We will add a note to the video description. Our apologies for the discrepancy!
 (Asked by

3225
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/126</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:33:34 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/123</guid><title><![CDATA[Q123 Is the action of triggering the TOUCHPAD transitive through field elements such as ROPEs?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q123:
Provided the force to initiate the action originates from a ROBOT, for the intent of scoring, is that action transitive through field elements such as ROPEs?
 
A:
There are no specific rules regarding what may or may not trigger a TOUCHPAD; however, we will note that, per the Blue Box in !I04 ROPES are meant to be pulled, not pushed.
 (Asked by

5012
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/123</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:25:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/118</guid><title><![CDATA[Q118 Pressure Accumulation]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q118:
In various points in the manual (ex. Overview), the ranking point is awarded as when an alliance "reaches a 40 kPa pressure threshold", but in Table 4-1, it is "exceeds a threshold pressure of 40 kPa".
Does kPa have to reach 40 or exceed 40?
 
A:
Good catch. The threshhold is *at least* 40 kPa and has been corrected in [Team Update 2](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate02.pdf).
 (Asked by

5471
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/118</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:25:13 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/111</guid><title><![CDATA[Q111 Bluetooth Scouting System]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q111:
In the game manual, only 802.11a/b/g/n/ac wireless connections are marked as illegal in the stands. We would like to use a Bluetooth connection (802.15) between laptops (in the stands only) in lieu of wireless hotspots. Is this allowed?
 
A:
Yes. !C05 applies only to 802.11a/b/g/n/ac wireless networks. There are no rules prohibiting Bluetooth networks used only in the stands. However, some venues may have specific requirements that prohibit Bluetooth (or other) communications.
 (Asked by

2485
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/111</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:24:47 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/106</guid><title><![CDATA[Q106 Gear Lift used to lift gear out of robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q106:
Dose the robot have to back away from the lift peg and release the gear before a human player can lift the gear? Or can the human player use the lift to pull the gear out of the robot as long as the gear is on the peg?
 
A:
Please use the Search Q&A button on the navigation bar before submitting a question. We believe !Q76, !Q46, !Q41, !Q35 and !Q1 answer your question. If they do not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
 (Asked by

4608
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/106</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:24:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/81</guid><title><![CDATA[Q81 Are the amount of Fuel that goaled in a match phase earn extra points?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q81:
Q16 stil doesnt clear,
The kpa and match point system are clear, but, in the Table 4-1 It says for an every 3 points in high goal or 9 points on low goals, you can earn 1 + 1kPa.
we know the 1 kPa give 1 Match Point, but, for every 3 fuels in high efficancy goal (for example) are giving us an extra 1 match Point (Not related to the kpa just generated). (or 9 in the low. for an extra Example.)
 
A:
With the exception of the 40 kPa threshold, MATCH Points are not awarded for kPa. Pressure (kPa) is tracked for the purpose of assessing the 40 kPa threshold.
For example, Table 4-1 says that if an ALLIANCE scored a total of three FUEL counted in the High Efficiency GOAL during TELEOP, and nothing else during the entire match, the ALLIANCE would be awarded one (1) MATCH point and one (1) kPa. The ALLIANCE'S final score would be one (1) MATCH point.
 (Asked by

4320
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/81</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:23:56 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/79</guid><title><![CDATA[Q79 Rope materials]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q79:
May a teams weave other fibers into their rope if it does not exceed the 1" nominal thickness?
 
A:
ROPES must meet the requirements of !I04 to pass inspection. As long as the "other fibers" do not violate !I04 (specifically !I04-D), they are permitted.
 (Asked by

3218
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/79</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:23:19 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/67</guid><title><![CDATA[Q67 Frame Perimeter and Bumpers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q67:
In past years teams have utilized and open section of bumper for intake of game pieces. Is there a rule against this for Steamworks?
 
A:
We will not declare a particular design legal or illegal, i.e. we won't comment on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. We will confirm that there is no rule that prohibits an "open section of bumper", provided all other BUMPER requirements are met.
 (Asked by

5937
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/67</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:22:24 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/57</guid><title><![CDATA[Q57 Rope: Splice = Knot?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q57:
Is a splice considered a knot for the purposes of altering the rope?
 
A:
No, a splice is not a knot. Splicing is defined as "join or connect (a rope or ropes) by interweaving the strands." Thus, a spliced ROPE does consist of fibers woven together (per !I04-D), but would need to satisfy the 1 in. maximum width specified in !I04-A
 (Asked by

3407
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/57</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:21:53 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/29</guid><title><![CDATA[Q29 Rope Question]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q29:
Is it possible to replace the rope with 1in tubular webbing?
 
A:
We will not rule on specific designs/materials. If the material meets the requirements outlined in !I04, it's legal. If it doesn't, or you can't confirm it does, we recommend considering a different, more obviously compliant material.
 (Asked by

5421
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/29</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:13:22 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/21</guid><title><![CDATA[Q21 Strap with velcro]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q21:
If we choose to use our own rope can we use a 1" strap with velcro sewn on the last 4 in of the rope?
 
A:
Please see Team Update 02. !I04-D explains how the last 4" of your rope may be treated, and this treatment must be 'only to prevent fraying'. Hook and loop fastener would be an odd choice to 'only prevent fraying', and would invite more questions from Inspectors.
 (Asked by

5440
 at Jan 16th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/21</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:12:36 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/153</guid><title><![CDATA[Q153 Does propelling FUEL through the air between robot mechanisms count as LAUNCHING?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q153:
If FUEL is propelled by one part of the ROBOT through the air to another part of the ROBOT while maintaining control and possession of the FUEL the entire time, does it constitute a violation of G23?
 
A:
As long as the FUEL remains within the ROBOT'S volume, it does not violate !G23 or !G28.
 (Asked by

1306
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/153</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:04:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/124</guid><title><![CDATA[Q124 Actively placing gears]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q124:
It is illegal to throw a gear, but it is not clearly defined. As long as the robot is in contact with the gear until it goes on the peg, so that it is touching one or the other at all times, would this be allowed or considered throwing?
 
A:
We believe !Q96 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
 (Asked by

649
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/124</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:36:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/110</guid><title><![CDATA[Q110 Clearance of parts that are in the perimeter of the robot.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q110:
We understand that the bumpers must have a 2" clearance, but how about the internal part of the robot, if we are trying to pick something up, we'd like those parts to be closer to the ground than 2". Besides the wheels, can parts be closer (within 1') to the ground?
 
A:
There are no rules restricting the spacing between ROBOT elements and the ground. We also recommend reviewing !R23 as there is no restriction requiring the BUMPERS to have 2" of clearance.
 (Asked by

6519
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/110</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:16:16 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/109</guid><title><![CDATA[Q109 Verification of Gear Loading Stations]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q109:
Would you please verify where gears may be loaded. On page 33 of the manual it sates" Return LOADING STATIONS are located in each of the two (2) corners of the FIELD opposite the BOILERS." However, the picture on page 30 of the Alliance Wall shows a RETURN LOADING STATION between Player Station 1 and Players Station 2. Can gears be loaded from the RETURN LOADING STATION on the Alliance Wall?
 
A:
The image you are referring to had incorrect labeling and was corrected in [Team Update 1](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate01.pdf). The LOADING STATION inside the ALLIANCE STATION is the Overflow LOADING STATION.
Also, please see !Q11 and !Q37 for additional information regarding GEARS and the Overflow LOADING STATION.
 (Asked by

938
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/109</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:15:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/108</guid><title><![CDATA[Q108 Detaching Robot from Rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q108:
If the robot has scaled a team-provided rope, may the rope be removed from the davit with the robot still suspended?
So, may the robot stay attached to the rope when removing the rope from the field, or must the robot be separated from the rope before both pieces are taken off-field? In question 14, a reference was made to a rule explaining that team-provided rope is not considered a game piece after removal from the davit, but must the robot be detached from the rope before removing the rope?
 
A:
There is no rule requiring that a ROBOT be removed from a team-provided ROPE before the ROPE is removed from the FIELD.
 (Asked by

1245
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/108</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:14:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/104</guid><title><![CDATA[Q104 High an Low Goal capacicty on kPa or scoring or both?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q104:
With the 1st update, "The capacity of the Low Efficiency GOAL is seventy (70) FUEL. The capacity of the High Efficiency GOAL is one-hundred and fifty (150) FUEL. FUEL that exceeds GOAL capacities will fall back on to the FIELD." If fuel is shot and made into the boiler after the capacity limit is reached, do the extra fuel count for any points or any kPa or are fuel after capacity worth nothing?
 
A:
The capacity information added to Section 3.11.4 refers to the physical holding capacity of the BOILER GOALS. If the GOAL is at capacity, additional FUEL will not fit in the GOAL and will fall back onto the FIELD. As described in Section 3.11.4 the BOILER will continuously process FUEL throughout the MATCH, clearing space for additional FUEL.
 (Asked by

4121
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/104</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:12:10 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/102</guid><title><![CDATA[Q102 Keep out time on Key]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q102:
Rule G17 says a robot can't be in an opponents key for more than 5 seconds, does this timer reset as soon as the robot exits? Can a defender be in the one for 5 seconds, leave for .1 seconds, be in for 5, etc... repeated for the entire match?
 
A:
Yes, the 5 second count will reset as soon as it is clear to the REFEREE that the ROBOT has completely left the KEY.
 (Asked by

973
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/102</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:10:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/99</guid><title><![CDATA[Q99 What is the angle of the PEG's tip?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q99:
What is the angle of the PEG's tip?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
 (Asked by

3339
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/99</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:01:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/93</guid><title><![CDATA[Q93 Manipulating Gears Inside the Robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q93:
So according to G27, holding a gear inside the confines of the robot is not allowed and considered a foul. What is considered inside the robot and can a gear be "inside" the robot at any time during transportation. Also, is positioning the gear in order to pick it up considered herding the gear.
 
A:
!G27 prohibits a ROBOT from controlling more than one (1) GEAR at any given time. There are no rules prohibiting a ROBOT from "holding a GEAR inside the confines of the ROBOT."
Positioning a GEAR in order to pick it up would be an example of herding.
 (Asked by

3570
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/93</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:50:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/91</guid><title><![CDATA[Q91 No restrictionson Pilot/Lift Interaction - Followup to Q41]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q91:
Q38, Q35, and Q1 discuss what a Pilot can do when a robot is near. Is there any restrictions when a Robot is not near? For example, let’s say that Robot A requires the Peg to be a 24” in order to place the Gear on the Peg. Can the Pilot operate the Lift to raise the peg to 24” (before or as the robot arrives at the lift), hold the lift/peg at 24", Robot A places the gear on the raised peg, and then at any time, the Pilot further operates the lift to raise the Gear to the Airship.
 
A:
There are no restrictions on operating the LIFT without a ROBOT present.
 (Asked by

2202
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Q88:
Our team would like to use http://www.gates.com/products/industrial/industrial-belts/synchronous-belts/powergrip-htd-twin-power-belts as our rope to climb. It is a timing belt, made of Fiberglass tensile cord woven together. This seems to meet the requirements of IO4D, and the diameter of the teeth from one side to the other would be less than 1 inch, which would seem to meet IO4A. Would this be legal to uses as a rope for competitions?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of *FIRST* STEAMWORKS. We will not rule on hypothetical ROPE designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROPE lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event. We will note that !I04 requires that a ROPE (emphasis added) "consist **entirely** of flexible, non-metallic fibers".
If you have a question about what a rule means, please re-submit.
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4946
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/88</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:47:49 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/84</guid><title><![CDATA[Q84 Metal and Magnet for Rope Climber]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q84:
Can we include metal on the tip of our personalized rope then use a magnet on our rope climber to latch onto the rope?
 
A:
No, please see !I04-D as modified in [Team Update 02](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate02.pdf).
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2151
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/84</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/75</guid><title><![CDATA[Q75 Pneumatic Air Venting]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q75:
Are COTS air nozzles rated at the specified working pressure in the game manual allowed? If not, are teams allowed to direct vented air from a solenoid to atmosphere through a .165" ID pneumatic hose instead of venting through a particle trap/muffler? if not, can a sleeve be placed around a particle trap/muffler without making contact with the muffler such as a duct as long as it is venting to atmosphere and not being used to recirculate air and or build pressure?
Thanks!
Rob
 
A:
Legal pneumatic components are detailed in !R82, if a component is not listed in !R82 it is not legal for use in the pneumatic system of a ROBOT.
There are no rules that prevent a team from venting any part of their pneumatic system to atmosphere.
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1027
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/75</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:40:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/59</guid><title><![CDATA[Q59 Extensions beyond Bumper still Legal?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q59:
Is this legal?
We have designed a robot that is 30x30x20" that is legal within the 36x40x24" size. Can we have an extension mounted on the top that extends 5" beyond the bumpers but is still within the 36x40x24" cube?
 
A:
We believe !Q4 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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5424
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/59</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:35:48 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/58</guid><title><![CDATA[Q58 Are the use of semicircle bumpers legal?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q58:
R29-C says the bumpers may not be:
-deformed
-of differing diameters
-of differing cross-section
-of differing density
And that the cushioning material may extend UP TO 2.5". (No minimum is stated)
If I cut round pool noodles in half to make a semicircle, the noodles will still be the same height of 2.5" each, the noodle isn't deformed, the diameter is still the same, all noodles would have the same cross section, and all would have the same density.
Would this be considered legal?
 
A:
A semicircular noodle does not meet the requirement in !R29, part C because it is not round, petal, or hex-shaped.
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1323
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/58</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:34:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/56</guid><title><![CDATA[Q56 Deliberate bumping = impeding game play?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q56:
If one robot deliberately bumps another robot to alter its course, or to cause it to miss a target or reloading opportunity, is that legal, or is it considered impeding game play?
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit a ROBOT from playing defense or attempting to get in the way of an opposing ROBOT. However, we cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE. If you have a question about a particular rule, please rephrase and submit.
 (Asked by

3407
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/56</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:25:56 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/44</guid><title><![CDATA[Q44 Team supplied rope - type.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q44:
re: Figure 9-1 Rope examples
Figure 9-1 shows a flat strap as an example of a "rope". Does this mean that flat ratchet-strap style "ropes" would be allowed?
If so, can velcro be attached to this "rope" at a height appropriate for our robot to "grab" it.
 
A:
There are no rules requiring that a ROPE be round. Please see !Q6 regarding attaching hook and loop fastener to a ROPE.
 (Asked by

4466
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/44</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:23:24 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/82</guid><title><![CDATA[Q82 Do the gear train revolutions need to be continuous?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q82:
For example, if a gear train is rotated 1.5 times early in the match, left static for a period of time, and then rotated another 1.5 revolutions later in the match, would that rotor begin turning?
 
A:
## Updated per [Team Update 06](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate06.pdf) on Jan 27, 2017.
**No.** Per 3.4.2 **as updated in [Team Update 06](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate06.pdf)**: "It takes three (3) full rotations to engage the ROTOR. **If a GEAR set corresponding to the next sequential unengaged ROTOR remains idle for more than ten (10) seconds, the rotation count resets to zero (0).**"- ~there is no prescribed amount of time in which the rotations must be made.~ Please remember that "ROTORS only start if GEARS are installed in ROTOR order." In other words, you won't be able to start ROTOR 4 until all other ROTORS have been started, etc.
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3184
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/82</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:29:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/129</guid><title><![CDATA[Q129 Bumper mounting]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q129:
Can the hard backing of the bumper (the 3/4" plywood) be recessed into the robot? So that the pool noodles are outside of the robot perimeter but the plywood is inside of the robot perimeter?
 
A:
No, per !R31 BUMPERS must be backed by the FRAME PERIMETER. Placing the BUMPER inside the FRAME PERIMETER would violate this requirement.
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157
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/129</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:22:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/114</guid><title><![CDATA[Q114 R27 Team Numbers Visible / Covered]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q114:
R27 states that an observer should be able to clearly see team numbers from any angle.
This years game will have many teams with mechanisms over and in front of the bumpers during match play.
Please clarify whether R27 requires bumpers to remain visible from all angles, or if they may be hidden.
If team numbers are hidden by robot elements, are extra team numbers required nearby on the same side of the robot? If so, please indicate rules for placement and background colors behind the numbers.
 
A:
It is permissible for BUMPERS to have obstructions during a MATCH (such as a MECHANISM or "element") without violating !R27.
 (Asked by

3225
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/114</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:16:55 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/113</guid><title><![CDATA[Q113 Fuel capacity in robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q113:
How much fuel can a robot handle at any certain point in the match?
 
A:
There is no rules limiting the amount of FUEL a particular ROBOT may handle at a given point in the MATCH.
 (Asked by

3354
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/113</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:16:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/112</guid><title><![CDATA[Q112 Peg Measurements]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q112:
What are the measurements of the peg in the lift? Section 3.5 of the manual mentions the distance from the FIELD carpet, how much it protrudes from the carriage and how wide it is; however we don´t know how long it is and how wide it is seen from the front. Specifically for the small triangle that secures the gears.
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
 (Asked by

3354
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/112</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:14:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/107</guid><title><![CDATA[Q107 Rope release in last 30 seconds]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q107:
Does the rope have to be released in right when the last 30 seconds of the match starts or can it be released after such as 15 seconds before the match ends?
 
A:
Per !H11 ROPES may be released when "there are 30 **or fewer** seconds left in the MATCH." (emphasis added)
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4608
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/107</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:07:29 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/103</guid><title><![CDATA[Q103 Number of gears on robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q103:
Can the robot be in posession of more than one gear at a time during tele-op?
 
A:
No, this is a violation of !G27.
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3259
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/103</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:04:13 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/92</guid><title><![CDATA[Q92 Outer Wheels - Frame Perimeter and Bumper Coverage QUestion]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q92:
Figure 8.1 indicates a portion of the frame perimeter that would not require bumper coverage beyond the 6" on each corner. Are wheels that run on the outside of the chassis considered to be part of the frame perimeter? And can a wheel then be uncovered by a bumper if it is outside of that 6" corner coverage requirement?
 
A:
!R01 requires that the FRAME PERIMETER be comprised of fixed, non-articulated structural elements (a wheel would not meet this). See the Blue Box below !R01 for assistance with determining the FRAME PERIMETER of a ROBOT.
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1557
 at Jan 15th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/92</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 00:01:17 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/85</guid><title><![CDATA[Q85 Rope Retaining Feature]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q85:
Does the "retaining feature" have to be comprised of only the rope, or can something, such as a large washer, be added to the rope to provide a more secure engagement with the field?
 
A:
All "retaining features" of a ROPE are still part of the ROPE and thus subject to the Inspection rules (!I04 most notably) and thus could not be, in your example, a large washer.
 (Asked by

3974
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/85</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:58:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/36</guid><title><![CDATA[Q36 Length of Rope above DAVIT]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q36:
I04 specifies a minimum length for the Rope of 5'3", but does not specify how much of the rope is above the DAVIT interface point. Is there a limit on how much of the rope can be above the DAVIT interface? For purposes of min/max length, should it be measured from the DAVIT Interface, and not the “end“? For example, I could put the DAVIT Interface at the mid-point of a 5'4" rope, leaving only 2'8" hanging below the DAVIT.
 
A:
Yes, please see <a href="https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate02.pdf"> Team Update 02</a> Team Update 02 for modified requirements on ROPE measurement.
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2202
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/36</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:45:38 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/122</guid><title><![CDATA[Q122 C07: TEAM without ROBOT]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q122:
In C07, "the team should inform the Lead Queuer if the Team's ROBOT is not able to participate", but "must send at least 1 member of its DRIVE TEAM to the FIELD". Can member(s) of a DRIVE TEAM participate in a match without a ROBOT, and thus neither receive a RED CARD or be DISQUALIFIED?
 
A:
Please follow the flowchart in Figure 6-1. If a Team's ROBOT has passed its initial, complete inspection, the Team is required to send at least one (1) member of their DRIVE TEAM to the FIELD for each of their assigned MATCHES in order to avoid Cards or DISQUALIFICATION. If the ROBOT has not passed an initial, complete inspection, the Team must not send any members of their DRIVE TEAM to the MATCH or their entire ALLIANCE would receive RED CARDS (via !I02)
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5471
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Q101:
Are all of the attachments on the robot limited to the inside edge of the bumpers or the outside edge of the bumpers?
I was wondering since bumpers are now included in the volume the robot must fit in.
 
A:
We believe !Q4 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. Please be sure to use the Search Q&A function before posting questions.
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4608
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Q98:
If the fuel starts within my robot and exits using the air to be shot into the boiler would that be a voilation of G28
 
A:
We believe !Q17 and/or !Q19 answer your question. If they do not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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272
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/98</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:40:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/96</guid><title><![CDATA[Q96 Definition of "LAUNCH" of a Gear]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q96:
Is there any level of forced movement of a GEAR for the purpose of moving the GEAR from the robot to the LIFT peg which would not break rule G24? I'm specifically looking for a clarification between "placement" and "launching" of a GEAR.
For example, if a team used a mechanism to help force a gear out of the robot while the LIFT peg is already within one of the GEAR's holes, would that violate G24? Or can robots only use passive maneuvers to transition the GEAR from robot to LIFT peg?
 
A:
Per the Blue Box below !G23, "LAUNCHING is defined as shooting in the air, kicking or rolling across the floor with an active mechanism, or throwing in a forceful way."
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4327
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Q95:
What material is used for the loading stations?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
[http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system](http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system)
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2141
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/95</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:39:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/90</guid><title><![CDATA[Q90 Recommended Static IP Address Configuration]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q90:
In section 3.14 the manual lists port configurations for communications. Can you please provide an additional set of recommended static IP configurations for teams that wish to use static IP addresses for secondary processors, switches, cameras, and their driver station?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. For technical assistance, please visit the [FIRST Forums](http://forums.usfirst.org/forumdisplay.php?23-FIRST-Robotics-Competition).
 (Asked by

900
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/90</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:38:40 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/89</guid><title><![CDATA[Q89 Diameter of the rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q89:
Does the diameter of the rope have to be constant throughout the length of the rope or can it vary? Eg a rope that is 1in in diameter at the top, but shrinks to 1/4in diameter at the bottom.
 
A:
!I04 does not require the diameter of the ROPE to be consistent across its length.
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4946
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/89</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:38:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/86</guid><title><![CDATA[Q86 How many ropes may be changed per alliance?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q86:
Section 4.2 states "A DRIVE TEAM may elect to switch one of the ROPES on their AIRSHIP for their own ROPE that meets the criteria defined in I04 of Section 9 Inspection & Eligibility Rules and has a serialized Inspection tag". Does this mean that only one rope of the three for the entire alliance may be switched, or may all three ropes be switched by an alliance
 
A:
We believe !Q52 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. In the future, please use the "Search Q&A" button on the top bar before posing a new question.
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219
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Q73:
Rule H11 prohibits early ROPE release with the only penalties being a FOUL or TECH FOUL. After searching the rule book, I found no rule against climbing a rope that was released early. For example, your robot can climb the rope in 40 sec, outside of end game. HUMANPLAYER deploys the ROPE 40+ sec before match ends, and the robot climbs before end game, and properly scores. This would result in a 25-45 net gain. Would there be extra penalty (possibly T03?) for working this into your strategy?
 
A:
We cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the REFEREES at your event, with the final call made by the Head REFEREE.
However, intentionally releasing a ROPE before it is permitted to do so can be a violation of !T03 and is subject to a YELLOW or RED CARD.
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3138
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/73</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:34:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/63</guid><title><![CDATA[Q63 Are custom ROPE(s) required to be bagged with the ROBOT on Stop Build Day?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q63:
R15 covers what is to be included in the bag and sealed on Stop Build Day. It includes "all ROBOT elements" excluding the WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE, BUMPERS, and COTS items. ROBOT is defined as "[including] all of the basic systems required to be an active participant in the game". Given that climbing a ROPE is an element of participation in the game, and the ROPE is not specifically excluded in R15, but possibly included in the ROBOT definition, do ROPES need to be bagged with the bot under R15?
 
A:
No, ROPES are not ROBOT elements and thus not affected by !R15.
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5881
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Q62:
R23 says that bumpers must be no higher than 7 inches off the ground. Is there a minimum height that the bumpers must be above as well?
 
A:
No, there is no lower bound to the BUMPER ZONE.
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2993
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Q45:
To expand on Q6, which asks about adding Velcro to an existing rope:
Would a strip of Velcro itself be considered a valid and legal ROPE? By <I04-D>, a rope must "consist entirely of flexible, non-metallic fibers twisted, tied, woven, or braided together". A strip of Velcro where both the fabric backing and the loop surface consist of a series of fibers woven together seems like it fully meets the definition of a legal ROPE, provided all other rules are met of course.
 
A:
There are so many configurations and styles of hook and loop fastener that it would be impossible for us to say that every single one meets the requirements of !I04. However, we feel the elements required to meet !I04 (with <a href="https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate02.pdf">Team Update 2</a> and the answer to !Q6) are pretty clear. If there is some specific element of the definition that concerns you, please rephrase and ask again (once the Q&A system is back up, of course).
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228
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/45</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:22:43 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/6</guid><title><![CDATA[Q6 velcro usage on rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q6:
Can a team use Velcro on a rope that they bring to the field?
Can they place Velcro above the 4 inches that secures the rope end?
Can it be place on the 4 inches that secures the rope?
 
A:
Please see <a href="https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate02.pdf">Team Update 2</a>.
Non-adhesive-backed hook and loop fastener may be part of, or the entirety of, a legal ROPE, provided that the ROPE is entirely made of "flexible, non-metallic fibers twisted, tied, woven, or braided together" per I04 (e.g. something stuck to or wrapped around the outside of the ROPE does not satisfy this requirement unless it's whipping as permitted per I04 part D).
 (Asked by

1880
 at Jan 14th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/6</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:22:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/22</guid><title><![CDATA[Q22 Multiple Rope Materials?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q22:
Are ropes allowed to be composed of multiple different materials (each of which comply with I04)?
If composed of multiple materials, must those materials be twisted/woven/stitched/braided together to satisfy I04-D, or may they be attached together by other methods?
If composed of multiple materials, must each material span the entire length of the rope?
 
A:
Yes, there are no rules which require a ROPE to be composed of uniform material. Yes, a ROPE must be twisted, tied, woven, or braided, per !I04-D. There is no requirement that any component material of a ROPE span the entire length of the ROPE.
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1712
 at Jan 13th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/22</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2017 01:35:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/10</guid><title><![CDATA[Q10 Rope materials]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q10:
Can teams use standard 1" cargo strap webbing as their rope and inter weave cotton fibers into it?
 
A:
We will not provide rulings on specific designs/materials. There are no rules that prohibit a Team from doing the twisting, tying, braiding, or weaving described in !I04-D or that require a ROPE to be made of a single uniform material.
 (Asked by

3218
 at Jan 13th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/10</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2017 01:33:54 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/27</guid><title><![CDATA[Q27 Supplying Ropes for Alliance Partners]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q27:
May teams bring additional ropes for other teams at their event to use? If allowed, would the receiving team have to get the rope re-inspected, or would the inspection by the original team be sufficient?
 
A:
Yes, Teams may share ROPES.
No, a Team does not need to get a borrowed ROPE reinspected; the most recent Inspection (at that event) is sufficient provided no changes have been made to the ROPE (per !I06).
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1712
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/27</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:05:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/37</guid><title><![CDATA[Q37 Further Clarification on Answer to Q11]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q37:
Question 11 and its associated answer seem to either be at odds with or just divorced from the game logic introduced under section 4.6, where GAME PIECES that leave the LOADING LANE and end up in the ALLIANCE STATION would be then "'owned' by the ALLIANCE in the space now occupied by the GAME PIECE." Under 4.6, any member of the DRIVE TEAM that isn't the COACH would be allowed to insert a GEAR through the Overflow LOADING STATION were a gear to leave the opponent's LOADING LANE, correct?
 
A:
We believe !Q49 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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422
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/37</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 19:09:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/30</guid><title><![CDATA[Q30 Does obstructing a lift violate G15?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q30:
Would a robot with a static defensive mechanism designed to be held above an opponent’s lift peg to prevent the upward movement of the lift be in violation of G15?
 
A:
We cannot comment absolutely on hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate decision would be determined by the Head REFEREE at your event as to whether a particular ROBOT action is violating a rule.
That being said, in and of itself, the action of a "static defensive mechanism designed to be held above an opponent's LIFT peg to prevent the upward movement" does not violate !G15.
As an additional caution regarding !G15, if a PILOT is using a LIFT in its normal fashion, and a ROBOTS "static defensive mechanism designed to be held above an opponent’s LIFT peg" (as an example) were to result in damage to the FIELD, the ROBOT is subject to !G15-H.
 (Asked by

8
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/30</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:50:04 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/61</guid><title><![CDATA[Q61 Field Elements]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q61:
Are there any structures under the field carpet that would interact with the robot wheels? this would be bumps from plates etc.
 
A:
Due to the number of venues in which *FIRST* STEAMWORKS is played, we cannot comment absolutely on the potential structures or surfaces underneath the FIELD carpet. Generally speaking, all FIELDS will be assembled on surfaces with as consistent a surface beneath as possible (such as a flat concrete floor, or basketball court). However, some venues such as hockey arenas or basketball courts, require the use of plywood or plastic tiles to protect the floors. These protective surfaces may cause bumps, gaps or other inconsistencies.
The FIELD, assembled in its designed configuration, does not contain support plates or floor protectors that would introduce bumps.
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155
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/61</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:49:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/78</guid><title><![CDATA[Q78 Can we have multiple ropes inspected at once]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q78:
May we have more than one rope through inspection or do you need to reinspect for every time we swap out ropes
 
A:
There is no maximum number of ROPES a given Team may have inspected at a given event. Please keep in mind though that there are limited inspection resources at an event, and we kindly ask that you have a reasonable number of ROPES inspected.
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272
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/78</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:39:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/77</guid><title><![CDATA[Q77 Bumpers included in Maximum Robot size?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q77:
Could you please confirm that the Bumpers are to be _included_ in the Maximum Robot size, as is indicated in R03. This is a significant change from all previous years, and will reduce Robot Sizes by about 6" length and width each.
Thank-you
 
A:
Please read [Team Update 1](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate01.pdf) where we verify that, yes, BUMPERS are included in the ROBOT volume.
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811
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/77</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/76</guid><title><![CDATA[Q76 2 part gears?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q76:
In the KOP, teams were supplied with a gear. These gears are in 2 pieces. Does this mean that the gears for play will also be in 2 pieces? If not, will the 2 piece gears be locked together so they don't fall apart on the field?
 
A:
For manufacturing purposes, each GEAR is two (2) pieces that are locked together with 20 8-15 x 0.625" Philips head screws prior to use. Per 3.12.2, each assembled GEAR "has 10 teeth, an 11 in. (~28 cm) diameter, 10 in. (~25 cm) pitch diameter, and is 2 in. (~5 cm) thick."
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3577
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/76</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:38:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/74</guid><title><![CDATA[Q74 Can the PLIOT remove the pre-populated GEARs to get more ROTORs turning?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q74:
As the question is shown above, can the PILOT do this in AUTO or TELEOP?
 
A:
We believe !Q31 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit. In the future, please use the "Search Q&A" button on the top bar before submitting.
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6353
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/74</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:37:26 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/72</guid><title><![CDATA[Q72 Gear "stealing"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q72:
After looking through the manual, there is no rule against knocking GEARS off of the opposing alliance's LIFT or taking them to score them on your own airship. Would knocking (or picking) GEARS off of the opposing alliance's LIFT be penalized in some way?
 
A:
The action of removing GEARS off the opposing alliance's LIFT, on its own, is not a rule violation.
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3138
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/72</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/71</guid><title><![CDATA[Q71 Adjusting height of LIFT while robot is aligning?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q71:
I believe Q1 answers this, but just to be clear, is the HUMAN PLAYER allowed to pull the LIFT up and down to help align to the robot for loading a GEAR?
 
A:
We believe !Q1, !Q35, !Q38 answer your question. If they does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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3138
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/71</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/70</guid><title><![CDATA[Q70 Can the Coach of the drive team set up the Drivertation]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q70:
H01. COACHES and other Teams: hands off the controls. A ROBOT shall be operated solely by
the DRIVERS and/or HUMAN PLAYERS of that Team.
Can the coach set up the Driverstation and test any USB controls using the Driverstation USB Monitoring tab? Also can they boot up the Smartdashboard or other approved applications and test them as well as the game is setting up. Control of the robot is not enabled.
 
A:
!H01 does not apply before the MATCH begins. There are no rules that prohibit a COACH from setting up an OPERATOR CONSOLE prior to the MATCH. However, once AUTO has begun, a COACH must be "hands off" (meaning they cannot handle GAME PIECES, change tabs within the Driver Station Software, etc)
 (Asked by

3244
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/70</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:34:14 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/69</guid><title><![CDATA[Q69 Frame perimeter bumper rule]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q69:
If a robot has a frame shaped like the letter M which is closed on the bottom, with the inside angles of the top of the M about 80 degrees, can the bumpers turn less than 90 degrees. Due to the definition of frame perimeter using a string and in the bumper rule that the bumper must be supported along the frame perimeter, we want to verify weather, in this case, bumper protection can follow an 80 degree turn to protect this corner.
 
A:
We cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, and the final decision as to legality of a particular ROBOT lies with the Lead ROBOT Inspector (LRI) at each event.
Please review !R22 and !R29. If you have a question about a specific rule, please resubmit.
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343
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/69</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:33:31 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/68</guid><title><![CDATA[Q68 can the game pieces (Fuel and Gears) extend outside the robot volume.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q68:
Can the pile of Fuel or Gear on top of the robot extend beyond the 24" height for the short robot or 36" for the tall robot as long as there are no robot parts IE. Nets, guides, force fields extending out side the constrained box. If the robot used the entire 36 in. by 40 in. by 24 in. and the gear was set on top would there be a violation?
 
A:
GAME PIECES are not part of the ROBOT, and thus do not count in regards to measuring the ROBOT Volume.
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3244
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/68</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:32:51 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/66</guid><title><![CDATA[Q66 four teams in an alliance]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q66:
In the Manual, at section 4 MATCH play and 11 Glossary, it refers to an alliance of including up to four team members. What role does the forth member of the alliance play? Are we able to have a forth member in our alliance prior to eliminations?
 
A:
At most events, ALLIANCES will consist of three (3) Teams. However, at the FIRST Championship only, Playoff ALLIANCES consist of four (4) Teams. These Playoff ALLIANCES do not have the option of an additional BACKUP TEAM.
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484
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/66</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:31:07 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/65</guid><title><![CDATA[Q65 Team PLAYER STATION Assignments]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q65:
Section 10.4.2 of the Game Manual goes into depth on the criteria and selection process for Qualification Match scheduling. Given the field layout, and the significant sightline impairment of the second PLAYER STATION, compared to PLAYER STATIONS 1 and 3, will the FMS attempt to balance distribution of PLAYER STATION assignments across the schedule? Secondly, during eliminations, will ALLIANCES be able to choose which TEAM will be at which PLAYER STATION, either per round or per MATCH?
 
A:
The assignments for Qualification MATCHES at a given event are done by the FIELD Management System (FMS) using software called "MatchMaker." FMS runs MatchMaker on "Best" Quality mode, which generates about 5 million schedules and selects the best one possible. Details about MatchMaker can be found on the vendor's website [here](https://www.idleloop.com/matchmaker/).
The assignments for Playoff MATCHES are based upon selection order (see 10.5.3).
Teams are required to be in their assigned stations, and there is no provision to "trade" stations with other members of an ALLIANCE (see 10.11 for exceptions regarding the _FIRST_ Championship Playoff MATCHES).
 (Asked by

5881
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/65</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:30:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/60</guid><title><![CDATA[Q60 Reusing old parts]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q60:
Can we reuse our old frame components, wheels, and gearboxes from our last years robot?
 
A:
While we cannot rule absolutely on specific ROBOT components, please review !R13. COTS items can be re-used in 2017 given they have not been modified prior to Kickoff (modified items would be considered FABRICATED ITEMS and thus violate !R13).
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2148
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/60</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:21:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/55</guid><title><![CDATA[Q55 about fuels that were thrown from the game field to the loading lane/alliance station]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q55:
Do fuels that were shot from the game field to the loading lane/alliance station still count as viable?
"MATCH PLAY",4.6 "Any GAME PIECES that leave the FIELD will not be returned to MATCH play."
 
A:
No, as you quote, "Any GAME PIECES that leave the FIELD will not be returned to MATCH play" and would be removed by FIELD STAFF for the remainder of the MATCH.
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3339
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/55</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:13:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/54</guid><title><![CDATA[Q54 Is moving a GEAR out of the way considered controlling the GEAR?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q54:
A GEAR is sitting in front of and blocking a peg on the LIFT, for example, and it prevents your ROBOT from accessing the peg. Is moving that GEAR out of the way for the sole purpose of accessing the peg considered controlling the GEAR as described in G27?
 
A:
Yes, the definition of control does not take into account the intent. Your description of "intentionally moving a GEAR out of the way," is herding. If a ROBOT possesses a GEAR while herding another, !G27 would be violated.
Keep in mind as well that intentionally placing GEARS in front of an opponent's LIFTS would violate !G21.
 (Asked by

6493
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/54</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:13:20 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/52</guid><title><![CDATA[Q52 Is there any limit to the amount of ropes that can be customized by an alliance?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q52:
Is there any limit to the amount of ropes that can be customized by an alliance? (by "customized" i mean to change the field rope to a personal rope)
 
A:
Each DRIVE TEAM may replace a ROPE on the AIRSHIP for a total of 3 on an ALLIANCE. Additionally, there is no limit on the number of MATCHES in which a DRIVE TEAM may load their Team ROPE in place of the default FIELD ROPE.
 (Asked by

3339
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/52</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:12:24 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/51</guid><title><![CDATA[Q51 Can we use retroreflective rope with glass beads in it?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q51:
There was some argument on CD. We could not figure out if glass beads in rope counted as "flexible" or "fiber".
 
A:
No, glass beads are neither flexible nor a fiber.
 (Asked by

1339
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/51</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:10:33 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/50</guid><title><![CDATA[Q50 Use of Pathfinding Algorithms on Co-Processors]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q50:
When using pathfinding algorithms, can all pathfind computations be done on a co-processor while the roboRio controls the motors or does the pathfinding algorithm need to run on the roboRio?
 
A:
Per the Blue Box below !R61, "no rules that prohibit co-processors, provided commands originate from the roboRIO to configure, enable, and specify all operating points for all power regulating devices."
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4330
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/50</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:09:22 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/49</guid><title><![CDATA[Q49 Can HUMAN PLAYERS feed GEARS onto the FIELD through the Overflow LOADING STATION?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q49:
Clarification on Q42. per 3.11.2 "An Overflow LOADING STATION is used to feed FUEL from the OVERFLOW BIN on to the FIELD". Whereas 3.11.3 states "A Return LOADING STATION is used to feed FUEL and GEARS on to the FIELD". It would seem that even if a GEAR were to be in the ALLIANCE STATION, a HUMAN PLAYER would still be unable to feed it onto the field via the Overflow LOADING STATION because it explicitly states that it may be used to feed FUEL, but makes no mention of GEARS. Is this correct?
 
A:
Under normal gameplay, 3.11.2 is true, the Overflow LOADING STATION is used to feed FUEL onto the FIELD. However, per !H08 a GEAR that inadvertently ends up in an ALLIANCE STATION can still be legally entered through the Overflow LOADING STATION.
 (Asked by

4206
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/49</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:08:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/48</guid><title><![CDATA[Q48 What are the restrictions on modifying the rope?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q48:
What are the restrictions on modifying a rope of our own to bring to competition? Is there anything you can do to it or does it have to be exactly like the rope provided by the event host? i.e. Could we tie additional knots or add metal to it?
 
A:
Please see Rule !I04 for restrictions on Team provided ROPES.
 (Asked by

5541
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/48</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:07:12 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/47</guid><title><![CDATA[Q47 First logos on bumpers]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q47:
Are the first logos that came with kop required per R26 or R27, if so how many sides of the robot must the logos be on?
 
A:
!R26-C allows, but does not require, *FIRST* logos to be placed on the BUMPERS.
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4557
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/47</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:06:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/46</guid><title><![CDATA[Q46 Pulling an empty lift into the airship during the end game]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q46:
During the end game, when a robot is trying to climb the rope nearest the alliance station, can a pilot pull the center lift up into the airship, without a gear on it, to get it out of the way of the robot trying to climb?
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit a PILOT from operating a LIFT without a GEAR, thus this is allowed (assuming of course that rules such as !G15-H are not violated) by the process.
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2839
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/46</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:05:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/43</guid><title><![CDATA[Q43 Team supplied rope - width]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q43:
Per 3.8 ROPE "These default ROPES are three (3), 1 in. (nominal) thick by 7 ft. 2 in. (~218 cm) long polypropylene “Manila” style ROPES"
Does a team supplied rope have to be 1in. nominal or can it be 3/4 in.?
 
A:
Per !I04 one inch is the nominal _maximum_. 3/4" is within the requirements of !I04-A
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4466
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/43</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:04:26 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/41</guid><title><![CDATA[Q41 No restrictionson Pilot/Lift Interaction]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q41:
In 7.7, nor anywhere else, I did not see a limitation on Pilot interaction with the Lift. Can the Pilot operate the Lift at any time, regardless of robots? Questions have been asked about operating the lift while a gear is in contact with a robot. How about raising the lift to assist in the placement of a Gear onto the Peg by the Robot? Seems like almost any operation of the Lift at any time by the Pilot is allowed.
 
A:
We believe !Q38, !Q35, and !Q1. answers your question. Please also utilize the "Search Q&A" button on the navigation bar before submitting.
If those answers do not resolve your question, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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2202
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/41</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:02:50 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/33</guid><title><![CDATA[Q33 Robot size limit with extensions at both ends]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q33:
Assume a robot has two extensions on opposite sides with each extension BY ITSELF not violating the max. size envelope. Yet if both were deployed SIMULTANEOUSLY they WOULD EXCEED the max. size envelope. If a provision were to be made either through software or through mechanical linkage so that only ONE OR THE OTHER extension could extend at any one time, would that be considered a legal robot from a size envelope perspective. Please specify if software or or hardware interlock is acceptable.
 
A:
We believe !Q28 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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4004
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/33</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:54:52 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/26</guid><title><![CDATA[Q26 Would a non-kit/FC fan added for cooling a coprocessor be allowed?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q26:
We are planning to use a phone for vision, and phones can heat up with heavy processing. Is it allowed to add a small fan for cooling if that fan is not from the kickoff kit or First Choice, and is not strictly "part of" the phone?
 
A:
No, a fan that is not "included in any Kickoff Kit, distributed via *FIRST* Choice, part of a legal motor controller (including manufacturer provided accessories), or part of a legal COTS computing device" is not an item allowed per !R32 and is therefore prohibited.
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2877
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/26</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:37:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/18</guid><title><![CDATA[Q18 Distance from base of airship to rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q18:
What is the distance from the face of the base of the airship to the point where the rope will be hanging. (I can see that the davit extends 11 inches from the edge of the airship rail, but I cannot see how far the airship rail is from the face of the base of the airship.)
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to answer questions regarding the rules of _FIRST_ STEAMWORKS. Any measurements or materials information can be derived from the Field Drawings available at:
http://www.firstinspires.org/resource-library/frc/competition-manual-qa-system
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2839
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/18</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:36:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/16</guid><title><![CDATA[Q16 Score Match points with fuel balls and KPA]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q16:
There is a question that come up about score
There are in score Table for each 3 fuels in high efficency and 9 fuel for the lower one. It says 1MP+1Kpa.
Now, The question is. The kpa in counted as the 1 mp or it is added additonally at end game. For each 3 fuels you can get 2 Match Points? (1 by the 3 on high goal and 1 by the kpa level it gave you). or it is just 1 MP because of the kpa added. 1) 2 points on high - 5 points gave one kpa =1MP2) 5points high+5points low= 3MP->2KPA+1MP(From 3 High
 
A:
For every one (1) kPa of pressure accumulated, teams are awarded one (1) MATCH point. The amount of FUEL required in a given GOAL during a given MATCH phase to earn a kPa is specified in Table 4-1. For example, six (6) FUEL in the Low Efficiency GOAL during AUTO will result in two (2) kPa of pressure accumulated, which earns a total of two (2) MATCH points.
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4320
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/16</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:35:06 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/15</guid><title><![CDATA[Q15 Electrical Custom PCB]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q15:
Is is legal to route power and signal from all devices (PDP, motor controllers, roborio, etc) through a custom PCB? Basically, do traces under an insulated coating satisfy R57 assuming the traces are of the appropriate width?
 
A:
No, a trace would not be considered an appropriately sized insulated wire per !R57.
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4627
 at Jan 12th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/15</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:33:33 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/20</guid><title><![CDATA[Q20 Adding a second gear to a peg.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q20:
If a gear is on a peg, can a robot add a second gear to said peg? Is there penalty if the prior gear on the peg is pushed back using the gear being added by the robot?
 
A:
There are no rules that prohibit multiple GEARS being on the same LIFT at a given point in the MATCH. There are no rules that specifically restrict interaction with GEARS already on a LIFT.
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2557
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/20</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:22:54 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/24</guid><title><![CDATA[Q24 Multiple Gears on Lift]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q24:
May multiple gears by placed on the same lift simultaneously?
 
A:
We believe !Q20 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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1712
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/24</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:14:42 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/19</guid><title><![CDATA[Q19 Use of forced air to propel ball from robot]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q19:
My question refers specifically to G28.
Question: Can forced air be used to propel fuel from the robot, provided that the straight barrel included a muzzle brake to ensure, at the moment that the fuel departs the barrel, that the velocity of air outside of the end barrel would be less than the velocity of the propelled fuel, and the newly launched fuel (ball) would therefore not be directed or redirected by the forced air?
 
A:
We won't rule/bless a particular design or application, but provided forced air only affects FUEL while inside the volume of the ROBOT and not once it's left the volume of the ROBOT, !G28 is not violated.
 (Asked by

1915
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/19</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:12:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/17</guid><title><![CDATA[Q17 Use of forced air to propel ball.]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q17:
My question refers specifically to G28. The rule, while intended to prevent robots from redirecting fuel in mid flight either into or away from an intended target, also prevents the use of air, forced or otherwise, to affect any fuel anywhere outside the robot volume.
Question: Can forced air be used, to generate a vacuum using a bernoulli effect, to draw fuel from outside the robot to the interior of the robot?
 
A:
No. Use of forced air to affect FUEL outside the ROBOT is a violation of !G28.
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1915
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/17</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:11:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/13</guid><title><![CDATA[Q13 Rope length clarification]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q13:
Rule I04 states that ROPE length is "measured end to end". If, for example, a rope had a loop in the middle (like ----o-----), is the length measured as if a measuring tape is placed from one end to the other of the so-configured rope?
 
A:
We believe !Q9 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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857
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/13</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 23:09:23 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/8</guid><title><![CDATA[Q8 Legality of launching a gear as shown in game animation]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q8:
Rule G24 states that gears cannot be thrown, yet the game animation (at time=1:55) shows a robot launching a gear at a peg. Would this action be a violation of rule G24?
 
A:
Yes, that would be a violation. As noted at the end of the animation, the animation is intended to be a general overview of the game. The Game and Season Manual is the source of official rules.
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484
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/8</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/28</guid><title><![CDATA[Q28 Maximum Volume Constraint Shifting]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q28:
Is it the intent of R03 to restrict the maximum volume for the simultaneous activation/deployment of all extensions, or, if the extensions are mutually exclusive, and enforced mechanically or in software, can the volumes defined by the extensions be measured in their game playing combinations? An example to clarify the question: If a robot has an extension on the front and the back and only one is able to extend at a time, and the maximum volume of the robot is never exceeded, is this legal?
 
A:
The purpose of this Q&A is to clarify questions related to *FIRST* STEAMWORKS, not provide detail on the intent of specific rules. Per Section 1.5: "Please avoid interpreting the text based on assumptions about intent."
While we cannot rule absolutely on hypothetical ROBOT designs, a ROBOT with "extension on the front and the back and only one is able to extend at a time" (via hardware or software) is legal so long as !G04 is not violated.
 (Asked by

2468
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/28</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:42:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/39</guid><title><![CDATA[Q39 Scoring of Rotors]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q39:
When scoring rotors. Do Rotors turning at the end of autonomous count for 60 match point get counted a second time at 40 each at he end of the match? in effect Rotors get assessed twice for match scoring.
 
A:
No, please read [Team Update 01](https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.net/frc2017/Manual/TeamUpdates/TeamUpdate01.pdf). Per updated Table 4-1, "For each ROTOR turning by period’s T=0, that’s not previously been scored"
 (Asked by

3218
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/39</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:35:19 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/7</guid><title><![CDATA[Q7 Does a robot need to stay on far side of baseline to get autonomous points?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q7:
After breaking the BASE LINE in autonomous, can the robot then move away from the baseline and back toward the alliance station without sacrificing autonomous points?
 
A:
Yes, a ROBOT can move away without sacrificing point. Per Table 4-1 the ROBOT must "break the BASE LINE vertical plane with their BUMPER by T=0," there is no requirement that they actively break the plane at T=0.
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484
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/7</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:59:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/12</guid><title><![CDATA[Q12 Robot design]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q12:
Can an part of a robot extend outside the robot frame as long as it does not extend past the bumper perimeter?
 
A:
We believe !Q4 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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155
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/12</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:52:41 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/42</guid><title><![CDATA[Q42 Is a human player allowed to feed a gear through the Overflow Loading Station?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q42:
If a GEAR were to inadvertently become displaced from a LOADING LANE into the opposite ALLIANCE'S ALLIANCE STATION, could that ALLIANCE'S HUMAN PLAYER use the overflow LOADING STATION to feed the GEAR onto the FIELD?
 
A:
Yes, per 4.6 "GAME PIECES that roll, slide, or otherwise transfer from a LOADING LANE to an ALLIANCE STATION (or vice versa) are considered “owned” by the ALLIANCE in the space now occupied by the GAME PIECE."
 (Asked by

4206
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/42</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/5</guid><title><![CDATA[Q5 Gear Sliding]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q5:
Is the coefficient of friction between the gear and the shoot such that the gear will slide without any user force?
 
A:
Yes, the slope of the LOADING STATION chute is such that a GEAR slides when placed on the surface. This can be seen in the [Loading Lanes Field Tour Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYX5dRa_uYk).
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2713
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/5</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:42:25 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/9</guid><title><![CDATA[Q9 Are knots included in the length of a rope?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q9:
Is the length of a rope measured before knots are added or after knots are taken into account?
 
A:
The measurements dictated per !I04 are made as the ROPE is intended to be placed onto the FIELD (i.e. with any knots or loops in place, measure the ROPE end-to-end for !I04 B and C)
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484
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/9</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:42:21 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/40</guid><title><![CDATA[Q40 Do team supplied ropes become part of the field indefinitely?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q40:
Section 4.2 states that a DRIVE TEAM may switch one of the ROPES on their AIRSHIP with their own ROPE and that ROPE, once installed, becomes part of the FIELD. Does the rope remain part of the field indefinitely or only for the duration of that match?
 
A:
No, the ROPE does not become part of the FIELD "indefinitely." If a DRIVE TEAM does not remove the ROPE with their ROBOT at the end of the MATCH, it will be removed by FIELD STAFF and the default ROPE re-installed.
 (Asked by

6357
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/40</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:42:03 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/4</guid><title><![CDATA[Q4 Frame Perimeter and Bumper Rule]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q4:
At any point can the robot extend beyond the frame perimeter thus above the bumper?
 
A:
There are no rules that require a ROBOT remain within its FRAME PERIMETER beyond the start of the MATCH (required per !G1-C combined with !R2). Rule !G4 requires only that it remain within the volume constraints defined in !R3 during the MATCH.
 (Asked by

2713
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/4</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:40:44 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/23</guid><title><![CDATA[Q23 Player Stations Numbering]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q23:
Please provide an explanation of the numbering for both alliance player stations. 10.5.3 details at which station playoff alliances will be assigned but these numbers are never mapped to the field. Which player stations are closest to the boiler? Is the numbering asymmetric like the field? Are they in order at all?
 
A:
When viewing the PLAYER STATIONS from within the ALLIANCE STATION, they are in numeric order with PLAYER STATION one on the left.
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3847
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/23</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:33:30 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/38</guid><title><![CDATA[Q38 Pilot using lifter in autonomous]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q38:
According to answer to Q1 on Section 7.7 Human Action rules, the pilot can raise the lifter to help engage the gear. Can this also be done in autonomous, or does the robot have to fully engage the gear itself before the human can interact with the lifter?
 
A:
The answer to !Q1 is not specific to a period of the MATCH.
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433
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/38</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:17:08 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/35</guid><title><![CDATA[Q35 Interaction between robot and pilot involving gear placement]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q35:
Does the robot have to be clear of the gear for the pilot to pull up on the lift? To clarify, may the robot remain in contact with the gear as the pilot pulls up the lift?
 
A:
We believe !Q1 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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5690
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/35</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:15:52 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/34</guid><title><![CDATA[Q34 Can removal of the gear be used as a control input in autonomous?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q34:
Per the response to Q1, if a PILOT uses the LIFT to remove a GEAR from a ROBOT, can the robot use the presence, non-presence, or removal of the gear as a control input?
In other words, if the ROBOT senses the presence of the GEAR, does the detection of the removal of the GEAR from the ROBOT constitute and indirect interaction with the ROBOT by the DRIVE TEAM under A02?
 
A:
If the ROBOT makes a control decision without the input of the PILOT (such as with a sensor detecting the presence of a GEAR) there is no violation of !A02. However, if the PILOT were to use a control device, such as an IR signal or colored marker, !A02 would be violated.
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6357
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/34</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:15:15 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/31</guid><title><![CDATA[Q31 Can a PILOT move pre-populated GEARS?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q31:
Per rule H10, the PILOT cannot remove a gear that has been used to start a ROTOR. Can a pre-populated GEAR, whose associated ROTOR has not started, be moved to engage a different ROTOR? If the PILOT can do this, can they do it in AUTO?
 
A:
Please see !H15, from Team Update 1, "A pre-populated GEAR may not be removed from its AXLE. Violation: RED CARD."
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4263
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/31</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:06:56 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/11</guid><title><![CDATA[Q11 Overflow Loading Station]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q11:
3.11.2 has an illustration showing a gear slot in the loading station yet I am not sure how a team would have a gear to load using this overflow station b/c the manual indicates gears will only be placed at the return loading station. Will gears somehow be available at the overflow station?
 
A:
The GEAR slot in the Overflow LOADING STATION is present ~~only~~__primarily__ for the purpose of interchangeable parts. __With the exception of circumstances described in !Q49,__ there are no GEARS available to an ALLIANCE inside the ALLIANCE STATION.
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5676
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/11</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:42:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/14</guid><title><![CDATA[Q14 End of Match using your own rope]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q14:
At the end of the match can a robot with it's team supplied rope be removed together from the field allowing the robot and rope to be separated after leaving the field?
 
A:
Yes, per the Blue Box beneath !R08, "a Team provided ROPE may be removed from the FIELD and is no longer considered a FIELD element once removed from the DAVIT."
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3545
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/14</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:33:45 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/3</guid><title><![CDATA[Q3 Gear removal]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q3:
If the gear is on the peg but still within the robot can the pilot pull it up to them?
 
A:
We believe !Q1 answers your question. If it does not, please rephrase your question and resubmit.
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2708
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/3</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:28:37 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/2</guid><title><![CDATA[Q2 What's the capacity of the low goal?]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q2:
How many balls can the low goal hold in total while process?
 
A:
Per Section 3.11.4 (as added in Team Update 1), "The capacity of the Low Efficiency GOAL is seventy (70) FUEL."
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2708
 at Jan 11th 17)]]></description><link>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/2</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:28:09 +0000</pubDate></item><item><guid>https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/1</guid><title><![CDATA[Q1 Lifting gears while robot is supporting the gear]]></title><description><![CDATA[
Q1:
Is the pilot able to operate the lift if the peg is through the gear, but the gear is supported by the robot. In this dituation the peg would not touch the robot.
 
A:
Yes. There are no restrictions on a PILOT operating the LIFT while a ROBOT is placing a GEAR.
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